@BowsacNoodle @FourOh-LLC @milk Thats completely understandable and healthy, thing with liberalism is that the only conclusion to the idea is freedom from everything, including morality, why would I want that in a neighbor yknow.

Ideally, Muslims live in their seperate nations, and not in mixed secular nations, which is the weakest form of nation anyway. So Im with you on that as well, putting aside the vague idea of the "west".