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"Bu-bu-but MUZZIES BAD THEY DONT LET WOMEN INTO POLITICS AND OFFICE MISOGUINEAISTS"
sure sure enjoy your empty cathedrals and falling birthrates.
TBH europe can probably patch up with enough struggle but the asians man, the asians are in trouble.
RT: https://poa.st/objects/57eef063-cfdc-4551-995d-1bf952387e21
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@Niloy005 @milk I don't want Muslims coming into Western countries because we already drove them out by the sword once, and it will probably happen again in the far future.
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@Niloy005 @FourOh-LLC @milk I don't want Muslims in the West, but I largely agree with your first and last point. Between the choice of atheistic libtard and traditional Muslim, I'd rather the latter for my neighbor. At least we could BS about our shared disdain for liberalism and the abominations it has created. My reason for disliking Islam is purely religious disagreement.
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@FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle @milk My God, this is something...Did you just say you want an ethical society that is also free, do you realize you are a living thing, living things are not inherently ethical, I would, for your own good, suggest studying up on reproductive biology, and understand where you guys are heading.
You cant be free and civil at the same time.
Islam will never reform or improve as it is perfect as is, the only few people who think otherwise dont understand what it means to be a human, nor do they understand the fundamental governing principles of life itself.
>We do not give a fuck if that "insults" you, as the matter of fact we do it more and better.
We do not care if you insult us,
>Morality and Culture are tyrants, punishing people when they "fall out of line".
>Islam belongs in the Iron Age
nor do we care if you play the game of semantics and half-assed logic, just know that,
>In Western Civilization we want to live in a Society that sells out tickets to mock religion, culture and morality.
This, only leads to one path, and its not a pretty one.
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We do not give a fuck.
In Western Civilization we want to live in a Society that sells out tickets to mock religion, culture and morality.
We do not give a fuck if that "insults" you, as the matter of fact we do it more and better.
We want to live in an ethical society, because its GOOD ENOUGH.
Morality and Culture are tyrants, punishing people when they "fall out of line".
Islam belongs in the Iron Age, and that's the end of it. I do not care to see islam "improve" or "reform". I want islam to drop dead.
Nobody is born a muslim, change your fucking religion.
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@FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle @milk Morality is not innate, and in extreme cases needs to be enforced, you will say this, but then shoot a guy for trespassing.
Any organization needs to set the boundaries of behaviour for its members, if it ever wants to achieve any of its goals, you have a company, you should know that. Keep your vague definitions to yourself, that definition applies to literally any nation with laws.
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Cult: A religious organization hostile to members / participants.
Islam imprisons, tortures, mutilates and murders people today, and going to continue in the future. The fact is - nobody is born to be a muslim, its a choice people make.
There is nothing can be said or written that is going to change these facts.
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@FourOh-LLC @Niloy005 @milk Also agree with this, although I do t know how much of that is Islam vs the cultural aspects of sand-people themselves.
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God does not imprison, torture, mutilate and murder people. Islam and muslims do.
You have your shithole countries where islam is normal, I suggest you stay there.
Do not move next door to me, you will regret it.
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@FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle @milk regardless of how you feel about us, I would highly recommend reading up on some fundamental reproductive biology, it is the most profound subject in all honesty., it feels that you misunderstand morality and how it relates to us.
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Muslims are dogs.
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@FourOh-LLC @Niloy005 @milk Hey man if you're wanting to drive the Saracen out of the West, then deus vult and more power to you. I'm just being honest about the way they live, at least on paper, as it compares to a Western libtard. Head coverings for women is something that Christianity had until like the 60s and abandoned for literally zero reason.
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Islam and muslims are not leaving you a choice.
Make sure you understand that.
What you call "good muslims" are radicalized to kill you as soon as the "bad muslims" show up on their doorsteps.
Act as an adult, and treat muslims as they treat you - as dogs.
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@BowsacNoodle @FourOh-LLC @milk Thats completely understandable and healthy, thing with liberalism is that the only conclusion to the idea is freedom from everything, including morality, why would I want that in a neighbor yknow.
Ideally, Muslims live in their seperate nations, and not in mixed secular nations, which is the weakest form of nation anyway. So Im with you on that as well, putting aside the vague idea of the "west".
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@Niloy005 @FourOh-LLC @milk The West is any country in Europe + The Americas— societies which trace their heritage to Rome or those emulating Rome, as well as their neighbors which embraced Christianity before the enlightenment.
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@Niloy005 @FourOh-LLC @milk The word "Nation" shares it's root with the Greek "ethnos" in traditional writings. You can't have a multicultural nation by definition. I'm being prescriptivist, but worth mentioning since we are in agreement that it's best to not share a country.
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@Niloy005 Southern Europe, yes, but that's included in my first definition. Perhaps North Africa, although it's a shame what's happened to Egypt.
>the western ideal itself is pretty new and liberal
When people refer to "the West", they're basically saying "traditionally Christian, White European places". The liberalism aspect is new and it's rather unfortunate. The American sphere of influence includes Korea and Israel and Japan, but they're not The West in the sense I'm referring to.
>but europe alone was so divided despite being christian.
Life is more complicated than simple agreement over core beliefs. The fact that said beliefs exist and were shared and understood enough to allow for disagreements in their minutiae speaks to the greater shared cultural identity of The West as much as it may seem odd to an outsider.
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@BowsacNoodle wouldnt you say, north africa, southern europe, the levant and a chunk of central asia are also the west? I mean the western ideal itself is pretty knew and liberal, I dont live in the west so you know a lot more than me, but europe alone was so divided despite being christian.
IDK, i just feel division along denominations seem more sustainable than the west or east.
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@BowsacNoodle @FourOh-LLC @milk funny how they still teach this definition in pol101, but then insist on a multicultural nation. I will say since most states have a single vast majority nation, state and nation blends in in convos.
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@Niloy005 @FourOh-LLC @milk >since most states have a single vast majority nation, state and nation blends in in convos.
If you only knew how bad things really are...