@Nazareno @dictatordave Yes, I do. I also believe that's why we won't see a draft instituted again unless stuff is seriously desperate. When I said civil service, I don't mean explicitly military. Parks, highway work, tree planting operations, conservation, building fences or all kinds of other things would be a valuable use of skills. Everybody is so detached from society and the country, and I think being able to help plant trees in a national forest would give some people an appreciation knowing they were a part of something good. Also border defense is we were actually a country that cared about its future.