@stephen @runoutgroover Aye, this I get. I’m slowly reading it now and while I’m enjoying it, the entire time I’m worried because I don’t know who to believe. Mostly when I read non fiction I have some basic understanding of the subject that guides me, but honestly the Davids could be completely wrong and I wouldn’t know it. I certainly prefer the story they tell about humanity to that of Hobbes et al, but is it right? No idea.