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   Ames (runoutgroover@mastodon.nz)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 04:18:43 JST Ames

   Hobbes: "The lives of our ancestors were nasty, brutish and short. We need authority and laws to keep our base instincts under control."

   Rousseau: "Our ancestors were noble savages in tune with nature. Civilization has simply corrupted us."

   The two Davids: "Lol get rekt you two losers"

   https://www.penguin.co.nz/books/the-dawn-of-everything-9780141991061

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     Brendan Jones (brendanjones@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 04:18:40 JST Brendan Jones

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     • Mr Salteena is not quite a gentleman

     @stephen @runoutgroover Aye, this I get. I’m slowly reading it now and while I’m enjoying it, the entire time I’m worried because I don’t know who to believe. Mostly when I read non fiction I have some basic understanding of the subject that guides me, but honestly the Davids could be completely wrong and I wouldn’t know it. I certainly prefer the story they tell about humanity to that of Hobbes et al, but is it right? No idea.

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     Mr Salteena is not quite a gentleman (stephen@microbe.vital.org.nz)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 04:18:43 JST Mr Salteena is not quite a gentleman

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     @runoutgroover I loved reading this book. Even while I suspect it has a polemic aspect I don't get as an amateur reader, it's a *different* Just So story to current Just So stories.