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@TacticalGrace_ @TimWardCam @lednabwm @MennoWolff The big question is whether suffering (s) is a constant across all possible multiverses.

Is the Theist belief in an indifferent first cause atheist or theist?

Is the Platonic belief in The One atheist or theist?

Wasn’t the belief in a bearded man in the clouds always for the lower classes?

Mystics and philosophers and artists create their own relationships to the numinous.