@kfaythe87 @GrumpyOldNurse @ArtistBristol I can condemn oppression and rape at the same time. I'd sarcastically say I'm clever like that, but apparently that is actually clever these days, and a minority position.

There are women I hate - due to the damage they have done, mostly politically rather than actually barehands violence. But while I do hate them, I don't wish they'd get raped. If rape is in any sense justifiable it'll come for all of us eventually. Same with prostitution and so forth, if any women is for sale, every woman is for sale. If any woman is a stupid bitch who should stay home then.... you see. That's the bit of Dworkin telling us to support all women I can grasp.

It's just *some* women make it hard. And I struggle. Because I either don't respect them or actively hate them or possibly both.

But rape is not justified.

If we're going to torture our enemies we need to be open and evenhanded about it. Trials and other old fashioned things. I'm not saying pain and punishment should not exist, I'm saying we need to be careful about letting stuff happend, like rape, and then saying 'she deserved it'.