@lanodan @ocean @coolboymew it's ogre
thinkpads are now somehow worse than the crummiest consumer laptops. lenovo's entire QC team must only exist to meet their quota of employees with disabilities, cause everyone on it is legitimately retarded.
at work we couldn't get our normal choice of HP elitebooks and zbooks during the coof and settled for thinkpads. at least a quarter of them had to be sent in for warranty repairs within a couple months, the docking stations never worked right so every morning there were multiple tickets in about monitors not working. unplug it a few times, reboot, rub it counterclockwise while standing on one foot, try and align it with the moons of saturn, attempt firmware updates and driver updates/rollbacks in vain, nothing changed and they'd break again tomorrow. people went back to 4-6 year old HP elitebooks that were beat to shit and had batteries that couldn't last an hour. some of em probably got thrown in the e-waste before the warranty was even up they were so bad.
i had a personal thinkpad i got for cheap a long time before that, and even then it was mediocre at best. the good memories folks have must come from back when they were owned by IBM.