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@EmmyNoether @Gnomeshatecheese @Piss_Ant “Friends of mine who’ve worked professionally with drug addicts tell me that their experience is that you have to stabilise the addict’s chaotic lifstyle first before you have any chance of weaning them off drugs.”

100% and, like alcohol, if they are in the company of other addicts it does nothing to assist them, even after getting off it, assuming they do, as they often pull them back down again, but unless someone is at least willing to engage and try there is absolutely nothing to be done to help them at all.