@Whitewall_Blasphemy @teknomunk @hazlin @BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff @skylar I always have found the excuse that CFCs were to blame for the ozone layer "depletion" a bit too slapdash, and given the bald faced lies that have been done in all other kinds of environmental science from the 60s onward, the fact that the molecules are heavier than air and they "got up there by turbulence" just seems like a bunch of bullshit.

I say this with me hating fluoride A LOT; but the simple fact is that those systems leaked less, ran at lower psi and in general were less complex for the same gain.

They actually developed CFCs in the 40s or 50s *specifically* to meet certain goals and stuff like r600a is an old refrigerant which was shelved do to the fact that it's oh .. flammable.