@ForbiddenDreamer @Kerosene @coolboymew @Nelenese also i mean, there are in universe reasons why they simple couldn't that if thought through even for a little while, but i mean the obvious real reason is cuz there's no story that way, but it can still be jsutified beucase hte world building is so good, that they couldn't ahve gotten away with doing it from, the eagles aren't anyone but manwe's servants, to they'd be spotted and ring wraithed etc etc.