Rod Hilton
He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets.
CubeThoughts
@princelysum @avedik @rodhilton I'm not a Elon fan but he did become the largest shareholder within a few months of the founding and started running it with usual, eh, light touch.. Founded 1 July 2003, Musk invests and becomes largest shareholder and chairman in February 2004.
Buy nothing new
@avedik @rodhilton So Musk liked it and bought it/in?
Thomas Avedik :verified:
@rodhilton: so much about he founding Tesla:
Charles ☭ H
Is it ironic that this link lead me to learning how Crichton testified to legislative bodies that they should ignore climate change?
While I agree with the OP's point about Musk, I think there's a related phenomenon where people may be very good at one thing and have a deep understanding, but might be bad at different things.
Colin the Mathmo
@rodhilton Are you aware of the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmnesiaEffect
Fabian
@rodhilton Tesla was the first mover for EV, like apple was for smartphones. The difference is that teslas are pretty crappy and other manufacturers are catching up.
SpaceX is pretty dope, but I read the team hat to work around Elon's stupid ideas all the time to create a good solution.
mathew
@rodhilton @fabiank83 Yeah, if you come up with a narrow enough contrived definition of “smartphone” you can argue that Apple pioneered it.
Apple didn’t invent multitouch either, of course; they bought it from Fingerworks. The iPhone was a minor improvement on previous smartphones in some areas, worse in others, using existing technology. That’s what Apple has always done well: take other people’s inventions and polish the design repeatedly.
clacke
@mathew @fabiank83 @rodhilton EVs were a niche market before Tesla broke it open. Touch smartphones were a niche market before Apple broke it open.
Neither of them made technical innovations other than integration, both of them were a success in vision, design and marketing that changed public perceptions and expectations.
The Samsung Galaxy wouldn't exist without Apple and the Nissan Leaf wouldn't exist without Tesla, but at this point you're better off buying the non-first-mover.
Fabian
@mathew @rodhilton Touch screen exist since the 80s or so but multitouch on phones with no keyboard was new.
mathew
@fabiank83 @rodhilton Apple wasn’t the first mover for smartphones. There were smartphones with touchscreens before the iPhone.
http://meta.ath0.com/2013/11/17/the-sony-ericsson-p900/
(Also, the iPhone was pretty crap at first. No MMS, terrible battery life… but Apple steadily improved it. And FWIW I’m typing this on an iPhone.)
murks
@avedik @rodhilton Also Tesla didn't invent electric cars.
Thomas Avedik :verified:
With an investment of about $27 million, Musk became Tesla's main backer.
He expanded his financially based influence, and is said to have pushed first CEO Eberhard (2007) and finally CFO Tarpenning in 2008 out of #Tesla with the desire to take complete control....
The bitterness still gnaws today....
Barry Schwartz 🫖
@rodhilton He was called out for bullshitting on Twitter’s software, so I do know one thing: he’s a skilled bullshitter.
There are principles of psychology that say he almost surely uses the same method in all fields.
(I’m not a psychologist, but I am a skilled psychiatric client.)
Dave Dawkins (D. Harrigon)
@rodhilton
Tesla to a lesser extent, but very much so at SpaceX spent a lot of time and energy making sure that EM had nothing to do with actually running the company. Twitter did not.
Adam Ierymenko
@rodhilton
To get why Musk looked remarkable you have to go back to the 2000s.
In the 2000s it was widely believed that EVs were a pipe dream and that oil depletion would halt all modern civilization. Remember “the oil drum” or dieoff.org?
Space was the same. Economical launch was impossible. There’ll never be a space age.
Then Musk bursts out with practical EVs and reusable rockets. It seems magical, superhuman, like he was some kind of savior. I definitely felt that way.
Alice Dubiel 🔬💉🦠😷🌬☮️
@rodhilton from what we hear from car and rocket workers, they’re ignoring him and the units receive federal funding to keep going. The intent of killing/maiming the bird site, in my opinion, has been to destroy/subvert on the ground protest organizing, namely #BLM #Palestinesolidarity #ImmigrantRights #ClimateAction #WomensRights #GenderRights It’s no accident that Mr Apartheid’s major motives are #misogyny #AntiIntellectualism and #racism.
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