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   CyberSpook?? (cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 09:29:07 JST CyberSpook??

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   I think the problem with your thinking is that you have an essentialist mindset when it comes to identity, you think that people of specific groups behave in a certain way. Which is no more than an illusion. I may be a libre software advocate. But I'm also a Stirnerite. That puts me at odds with even the people within the libre software movement, egoist telekommunism is a niche within a niche, I am a misfit even within the libre software community itself, even compared to Stallman himself. I have my own ideas of what ends the libre software is supposed to serve, my own views on ethics and the ideas of "right" and "wrong," which are pretty much incompatible with the libre software movement's consensus. Libre software movement is mostly a liberal movement. And I am a post-leftist. Big difference.
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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 09:29:05 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     heh, I saw a "we are not the same" ending coming ;-)
     
     the thing about respecting others freedom is precisely to not impose values on others. different users have different goals, so freedom enables them to do different things, and that's great!
     though you seem to be speaking about the software per se, this also applies to some extent to the movement itself: we are a single-issue movement, and that's politically important because it can attract people with various different political positions, motivations and whatnot: as long as they support the notion that software shouldn't exert power over themselves (or others), we can join forces to advance this notion. indeed, I'd say the more diverse the reasons and the values, the better, because it shows how perverse and harmful the notion of nonfree software is
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 16:28:25 JST 翠星石

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     @cyberspook >someone called you a cuck over using a BSD?
     Well I mean the license demands that you accept it just to use the software and the OpenBSD installer installs proprietary software without asking you if it detects that your hardware could possibly use X propriety things.
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     CyberSpook?? (cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 16:28:26 JST CyberSpook??

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     LOL, someone called you a cuck over using a BSD? Folks these days…
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     ¢υяισυѕ тнιηкєя :openbsd: ? ? ? (curiousthinker@rojogato.com)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 16:28:27 JST ¢υяισυѕ тнιηкєя :openbsd: ? ? ?

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     Yeah, I think I respect people that respect other people's choices. It's those that get pushy with me over my software stack and hardware, or disrespectful over licensing (like calling me a cuck for using BSD because of it's licensing), that get under my skin and they cause me to become distrusting and jaded over extreme libre software positions.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 16:29:34 JST 翠星石

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     @cyberspook *almost all BSD licenses demand that you accept them just to use the software