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   LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:09 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

   Welcome back to: Destiny is retarded.
   On today's episode, we have "Genocide is ok when we do it"

   https://youtu.be/gOyxn_kJRLE?t=944

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     ⛧Airgetlam⛧ (alex@wreck.rocks)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:33:59 JST ⛧Airgetlam⛧

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     • Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
     @LukeAlmighty @dave @alyx this is the same kind of logic antifa uses to justify attacking you, so actually he's acting in self defense too, making it illegal and unjustifiable for you to kill him
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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:01 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave @alyx
     Your thinking is so one-dimensional.

     You said, the jews were right to commit a genocide. From there on, the danger was established.

     Your examples are based on "one side attacking first", but that's retarded. Both sides know, that the other one can attack at any moment. Do you understand that concept? A Stand off?

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:01 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave @alyx
     When I see an antifa guy on the street, I don't want to kill him.

     But he thinks I am a nazi, and that I want to kill him. That makes him an active thread to ME.

     And therefore, I AM actually justified to attacking him too, based on the fact, that he thinks, that I will attack him.

     DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND IT?

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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:02 JST Ever Beedle

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     @LukeAlmighty @alyx “It was right for that armed robber to shoot his victim, because his victim would have killed him instead if he could have”

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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:03 JST Ever Beedle

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     @alyx @LukeAlmighty

     Self-defense works when your life is in IMMEDIATE threat

     Under most circumstances, yes. But most people are never going to run into a situation where they find out someone is planning to kill them in advance. Approximately a third of all living jews were exterminated in the holocaust, and the only reason it wasn’t all of them is because Hitler had bitten off more than he could chew and was defeated militarily. Jews organizing and killing the people actively trying to exterminate them would have absolutely been justified.

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:03 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave @alyx
     Congratulations, you have just justified completelly why any average german was correct to support it.

     According to you, it did became an "us or them" situation, where genocide of one group was inevitable.

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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:04 JST Ever Beedle

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     @LukeAlmighty Not at all. I believe in an affirmative right to self-defense.

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     Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:04 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀

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     @dave @LukeAlmighty
     Destiny clearly states: "at the very least, people who were a part of the SS, or nazi politicians". Problem is, if you were a jewish person, it wouldn't be a nazi politician that would have their gun pointed at you. It might not even be a proper SS member. It's gonna be a low level grunt, that acts on the orders of his higher-ups. So the way I see it, this being an argument of killing out of self-defense makes no sense.

     Self-defense works when your life is in IMMEDIATE threat, not when "well, I'm convinced those people are gonna eventually come to kill me because of their ideology". That's not self-defense, that's acting in anticipation of a threat. It's Minority Report, without an actual clairvoyant.

     What Destiny seems to argue, is that if we're convinced the Nazis are an existential threat, we are in the right to kill them.

     Forgive me for not going too much farther into the stream. Maybe there are better arguments made later on in the discussion, but frankly both of them simply annoy me when they speak.

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:05 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave
     Do you? ?

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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:06 JST Ever Beedle

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     @LukeAlmighty Do you believe that it’s wrong to kill people that are trying to kill you?

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:07 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave
     But he didn't say it either way.
     He said: I see one genocide as justified, but the 2nd one as immoral.

     I see why you hate this point though :D

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:08 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave
     Oh, Hi Dave.
     There are several ways of looking at it.
     1) The old fassion war stance.
     Meaning, that every war is amoral.
     That obviously ain't his point.

     Or, we can take the defense point.
     Well, he didn't talk about defense there, did he? He said genocide. That means mass murdering, and if jews are genociding you under the flag of defense, that means you can defend against their "defense" justyfying the supposed original aggression.

     Do you see the problem now?

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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 03:34:09 JST Ever Beedle

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     @LukeAlmighty I think you’re misinterpreting what he’s saying. Jews were actively being exterminated in Germany, and killing the people trying to kill you is self-defense. Notice that he says it was OK for jews to kill nazis, not Germans.

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     Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍?? (ytfoidlover1488@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:26:55 JST Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍??

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     @ChristiJunior @dave @Senator_Armstrong @LukeAlmighty @alyx I'm here because I was uninterested in a "game"
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     @LukeAlmighty @Senator_Armstrong @alyx I do not need to “prove” anything. You are simping for a schizo faggot that would murder a lot of innocent people if he believed he would get away with it.

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     @dave @Senator_Armstrong @LukeAlmighty @alyx Unlike you, I follow NEET, and I've seen him antagonize a lot of actual Nazis over their racial beliefs, he's not a would-be mass murderer, he seems like a regular White guy who if anything leaned libertarian, but who learned the hard way that other people (specifically leftists and nonwhites) generally didn't share his live and let live mindset, and insist on making White people pay for supposed past injustices.
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     @LukeAlmighty @Senator_Armstrong @alyx Not responding to this. He is staying blocked, and I will absolutely block you too if you keep helping him block evade.

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:26:57 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave @Senator_Armstrong @alyx
     I have reposted it, because it was a good pe-phrase of my question.

     And as always, it does seem, that your only principle is: Genocide is good, as long as it's against white people.

     I wish you could simply prove me otherwise, but you refuse to no matter what way I (or Neet) ask.

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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:26:58 JST Ever Beedle

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     @Senator_Armstrong @LukeAlmighty “You don’t even know what my ideology is”

     Proceeds to make it clear that I knew exactly what his ideology was

     Imagine having just denied the holocaust, being on fucking DRC, and then saying this. Zero self-awareness, zero IQ.

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:26:58 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave @Senator_Armstrong
     Speak of the devil. In this thread you justify the use of genocide to counteract your own genocide. You only limit this to cases where your people are actively being killed. Well, as it turns out, I can name us place like that in real life today: South Africa.

     White South Africans are targeted for racial violence routinely, making them actively killed. The government routinely threatens to "expropriate" their land "without compensation," and the people doing it sing "Kill The Boxer" as these demands hash out. When you combine these things, all racially motivated, you have an active extermination of Whites going on.

     Which raises the following question: should South African Whites put down this active extermination with extreme prejudice? Your options are:

     1) Yes, they absolutely should, because I, Dave, am internally consistent
     2) No, in my system of thought, Whites uniquely lack the right to self defense on a racial scale (default if you do not answer)

     Going to have to ask @LukeAlmighty and @alyx to forward the question to Dave since he blocked me.

     Neet.

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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:26:59 JST Ever Beedle

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     @Senator_Armstrong @LukeAlmighty “Actual history makes my ideology look bad, so since I’m a weak-minded faggot I’m just going to stick my head in the sand and pretend it didn’t happen”

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     Senator Armstrong (senator_armstrong@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:26:59 JST Senator Armstrong

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     @dave @LukeAlmighty You don't even know what my ideology is. What did you think just because I can debunk zionist propaganda that I worship Hitler? You're a woke regime shill and that is disgusting. Innocent whites die because of assholes like you and there will be consequences you cannot escape, I'll make sure of it.
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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:27:00 JST Ever Beedle

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     @Senator_Armstrong @LukeAlmighty Fuck off with your zero-IQ revisionist bullshit

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     Senator Armstrong (senator_armstrong@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:27:00 JST Senator Armstrong

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     @dave @LukeAlmighty You're the revisionist inventing fake atrocities so you can grift you fucking trash.
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     Senator Armstrong (senator_armstrong@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 04:27:01 JST Senator Armstrong

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     @dave @LukeAlmighty The jews were never being "exterminated," stop lying. They were being evicted, which they deserved.
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     Bill_Boone (bill_boone@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:25 JST Bill_Boone

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     @divVerent @loveFromBirkenau @PonyPanda @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @Alex "The NSDAP had a vested interest to claim most of the killed were Jews to justify their actions consistently with their ideology. Like, I knew people who had been threatened to end up in a camp if they "keep spreading Jewish thought", even though they were not Jewish at all, just complaining about the government."
     A: how old are you nigger? that shit happened 80 years ago
     B: The NSDAP did not claim that anyone was killed, jews and their kangaroo courts did. They backed up these claims with ridiculous stories from jews and the testimony of Germans who had been held and tortured.
     
     You have exposed your ignorance of the claims of the so called "holocaust". No one can really be blamed for being ignorant because the official story keeps changing and varies depending on which source you talk to. But please don't try backing up your ignorance of what they claim about the holocaust with your own inventions and psuedo-intellectualism.
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     @Bill_Boone @divVerent @loveFromBirkenau @PonyPanda @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave fuck off retards untag me
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     divVerent (divverent@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:34 JST divVerent

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     @loveFromBirkenau @PonyPanda @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @Bill_Boone @Alex I think we all vehemently agree that the 6 million number is a rough estimate, no more than that. Or, for a more current example, just look at the number of killed soldiers as claimed by Ukraine and as claimed by Russia. There is probably not even malice there, both sides estimate using their own methods and are off from each other by a factor from 5 to 10 in the direction they like to be off in.
     
     Even if we assume the 6 million number is at the center (i.e. "unbiased"), that still allows the real amount to be in the range from 2 to 20 billions. If we assume it is "anywhere", anything from 600k to 60M is possible.
     
     Another "counting error" could be in who you consider a Jew and who not. The NSDAP had a vested interest to claim most of the killed were Jews to justify their actions consistently with their ideology. Like, I knew people who had been threatened to end up in a camp if they "keep spreading Jewish thought", even though they were not Jewish at all, just complaining about the government. Maybe some of those were counted in this number too.
     
     None of this means it didn't happen though. But getting accurate numbers is painfully hard to impossible.
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     loveFromBirkenau (lovefrombirkenau@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:38 JST loveFromBirkenau

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     @divVerent @PonyPanda @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @Bill_Boone @Alex > In May 2002, Fritjof Meyer, former chief editor of the Hamburg news magazine "Der Spiegel," published a rather startling article with the title "Die Zahl der Opfer von Auschwitz. Neue Erkenntnisse durch neue Archivfunde" (The Number of Auschwitz Victims: New Revelations Through New Archival Discoveries).[11] Meyer defends the thesis of homicidal gassings but deviates from his predecessors in two important points:
     
     > In the first place, he moves the center of the alleged mass murders from the crematories to the so-called 'Bunkers' of Birkenau. In the second place, he lowers the number of Auschwitz victims to 510,000. This contrasts greatly with 1,100,000 (the number presently postulated by official historiography)[12] and 711,000 to 631,000 (the numbers postulated by Pressac.)[13].
     
     > Meyer maintains that "The actual genocide probably took place in the two converted farmhouses outside the camp" (page 632). Since in his view 510,000 persons were killed in the camp, of whom 356,000 were gassed, it is clear that he thinks the alleged mass murders took place almost entirely in the Birkenau "Bunkers."
     
     I think Auschwitz started off at 4 million and the "affirm at all costs" crowd, I mean historians *cough* seem to be barely holding on to 356,000. The official narrative will have to undergo re-construction from time to time to keep the game going, one sympathizes. We'll just have to ignore the untold repetitions of the 40 year lie of 4 million, 6million, 10 bajillion, lamp shades etc =)
     
     Keep rolling those dice.
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     divVerent (divverent@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:39 JST divVerent

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     @PonyPanda @Alex @Bill_Boone @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @loveFromBirkenau I rolled a d20 about 572 thousand times and added up, duh!
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     PonyPanda (ponypanda@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:40 JST PonyPanda

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     @divVerent @Bill_Boone @Alex @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @loveFromBirkenau @s8n
     
     Where did you get that number from?
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     divVerent (divverent@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:41 JST divVerent

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     @Bill_Boone @loveFromBirkenau @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @s8n @Alex The six million figure is wrong, it was actually 6,002,712. Germans can count.
     
     j/k
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     Bill_Boone (bill_boone@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:42 JST Bill_Boone

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     @divVerent @loveFromBirkenau @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @s8n @Alex Wait you think it did happen?
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     loveFromBirkenau (lovefrombirkenau@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:43 JST loveFromBirkenau

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     • ⛧Airgetlam⛧
     @dave @LukeAlmighty @alyx @s8n @Alex Most of the general population have confused war propaganda and decades of media manipulation for historical fact around WW2, america built an entire "we are the good guys" (goys) image around it.
     
     Holocaust affirming is an easy and lazy path to take, and you will have system backing and social backing to do so, none of that means the claims surrounding that war were in any way what happened.
     
     You should do the research yourself if you are ever curious what events, claims, and numbers are entirely in dispute to this day and logistically could never have occurred despite the media-instilled wide spread consensus around this specific hoax of a "genocide".
     
     The general population believes lots of retarded stuff the holohoax is not even among the worst of it. No one wants to address it because they would have to re-evaluate who they are, who their country is, and whether they are really the good guys they think they are, that they may not be able to reconcile what they wrote in and reinforced in the history that they were.
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     divVerent (divverent@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:43 JST divVerent

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     @loveFromBirkenau @dave @LukeAlmighty @alyx @s8n @Alex
     * denies Holocaust
     * wants to kill the Jews himself
     
     Not a bad juxtaposition. Good job.
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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 02:31:44 JST Ever Beedle

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     @s8n @Alex @LukeAlmighty @alyx You’re projecting your own opinions about it onto the general population, most of whom don’t share your views.

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     @Alex @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave do you guys understand why multiculturalism doesn't work yet or are you still retarded