U.S. friends: if you can afford dinner at a nice restaurant, odds are good that you can afford to leave a big enough tip to make your server’s night
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monkϵyborg 🦾🐵 (monkeyborg@triangletoot.party)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 10:56:17 JST monkϵyborg 🦾🐵
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hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 10:56:15 JST hypolite
@kinetix What’s your point with regard to the original post? -
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Kinetix (kinetix@mycrowd.ca)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 10:56:16 JST Kinetix
@monkeyborg
Except expected tipping is a silly system that is normalized in north america only because people don't get paid appropriately. The system is so goofy now that just about any business that has people in it that serves you an anything ask for a tip. -
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Kinetix (kinetix@mycrowd.ca)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:04:08 JST Kinetix
@hypolite
Or was there another post I'm not seeing?
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hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:04:08 JST hypolite
@kinetix I'd say it's more that you're missing the point. The original post wasn't trying to argue that the current tip system in the US is good, but that, in this current flawed system, being able to afford a dinner at a nice restaurant means also being able to afford a much larger tip than what's just required to complement the wait staff critically low wages. -
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Kinetix (kinetix@mycrowd.ca)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:32:25 JST Kinetix
@hypolite
Thr point in that specific regard is that is if one is going to pay an exorbitant amount for a plate of prepared food and the business can't afford to properly pay someone to provide the service, there's something wrong with that picture.
If one wanted to for good service, that's one thing, but we have screwy expectations around it here (like why would monkeyborg have to put out a guilt tripping post?), and I'd rather just see people paid appropriately.
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monkϵyborg 🦾🐵 (monkeyborg@triangletoot.party)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:32:25 JST monkϵyborg 🦾🐵
@kinetix @hypolite I think we would all rather see people paid appropriately. But in the meantime, the system we have places the burden of compensating the server on the customer.
I’m not trying to guilt-trip anyone. Most people prefer to be generous when they can afford to be. It feels good. You’re doing the server a favor when you tip well, but also yourself.
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hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:36:30 JST hypolite
@kinetix No, there's no question about it. If you can afford a dinner at a nice restaurant, you can afford to make a server's night. There's nothing material preventing you to do it, it's only a matter of personal choice. If you have enough income to pay $100+ at a restaurant, you absolutely can drop an additional $20 for the tip on top of the expected 18-20%.
I personally don't always do it despite 100% being able to, so the original post is a nice reminder in that regard. When my financial situation was more precarious, I simply didn't get dinner at nice restaurants which ruled out leaning more on the tip. -
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Kinetix (kinetix@mycrowd.ca)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:36:31 JST Kinetix
@hypolite @monkeyborg No, I get what's said, and a direct response to that would be a big "maybe". Maybe not.
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