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   Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:36:35 JST Eugen Rochko

   • かき@GNUsocialJP

   There were two notable moderation incidents on mastodon.social and mastodon.online in the past 24 hours that I would like to address. In the first, a post was wrongfully removed due to a report claiming it contained a dogwhistle, and in the second, a person was wrongfully suspended due to a report claiming it's an impersonator. Both were undone and apologies issued.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:36:56 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP

     The moderation team is bigger than ever and so is the amount of reports we have to process. We're dealing with unprecedented growth despite having closed registrations on these servers weeks ago. Some false positives are unavoidable, but we understand these mistakes are upsetting and unacceptable, and we are trying to do better. Luckily all moderator actions can be appealed and reversed.

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     Rich (rmbles@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:38:30 JST Rich

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     @Gargron How many mods are there here?

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     Theodora Lau (psb_dc@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:38:55 JST Theodora Lau

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     @Gargron thank you for all that you do!

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     bhalomanush (anirbanm@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:39:12 JST bhalomanush

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     @Gargron I appreciate this response which conveys humility and accountability. Thank you!

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     Randahl Fink (randahl@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:39:45 JST Randahl Fink

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     @Gargron will further registrations on this server be closed forever, or is there a known time frame?

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     Galactico (galactico@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:40:44 JST Galactico

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     @Gargron keep up the superb work!

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     Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦 (grant_m@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:41:22 JST Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦

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     @Gargron Thank you!

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     Aaron Y. Zelin (azelin@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:42:42 JST Aaron Y. Zelin

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     @Gargron your moderation teams should also get people that know the extremist research landscape before calling for posts to be taken down or forced to have some warning that are not inciting nor show violence, but are shared to show trends and research.

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     Harry Keller (harryfk@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:43:35 JST Harry Keller

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     @Gargron Thank you for all the work you’re doing! Must be hard, suddenly being in this situation under the spotlight, with all the attention and expectations. Hope you also get some rest! ?

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     Romanovich ?? (cherepin@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:44:05 JST Romanovich ??

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     @Gargron Thank you very much. I really like this social network. It is really easy and comfortable to create content here. Once again, thank you very much for Mastodon, have a nice day and prosperity.

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     ~~~~~~ (drayenim@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:45:33 JST ~~~~~~

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     @Gargron as opposed to twitter where you could easily get suspended and ignored for weeks, sending appeals into the void without knowing if any real person would ever read it

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     Matt (imwiththecats@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:48:19 JST Matt

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     Thanks, @Gargron -- for the transparency and the hard work.

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     Izzy Jayasinghe (i_jayas@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:49:11 JST Izzy Jayasinghe

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     @Gargron You haven’t reversed the massive dent in the trust and trauma for those on the receiving end however. Apologies are important, but they wash over quickly. Where is the evidence that they will learn, and that similar mistakes won’t be made. “Moderator actions can be appealed & reversed” is hardly a guarantee of safety.

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     John Francis (johnefrancis@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:49:19 JST John Francis

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     • Erica Ifill

     this might be an update about @wickdchiq

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     sirsquid@mastodon.social's status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:52:44 JST Sirsquid

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     @Gargron perhaps these kinds of instant suspensions should need another to sign off on them?

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     Cody (cgcody@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:53:44 JST Cody

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     @Gargron I know you have a lot on your plate right now, and if anything this would be way down on the list, but have you considered something like Polis for community driven moderation? It seems to *possibly* have the potential of being a real benefit to society.

     https://compdemocracy.org/Polis/

     I should note this is what the bird apps "Community Notes" is based on, but there's no affiliation.

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     Joe Hall ☮️ ❤️ ? (joehall@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:54:56 JST Joe Hall ☮️ ❤️ ?

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     @Gargron kep up the good work my dudes!

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     Andrea R.-L. (kircheheide@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 06:57:47 JST Andrea R.-L.

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     @Gargron Thank you!

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     PositivDenken 🤯 (zeank@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:00:52 JST PositivDenken 🤯

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     @Gargron you’re doing a tremendous job!

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     Paul Taylor (ampersarnie@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:02:25 JST Paul Taylor

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     @Gargron While I appreciate the honesty behind this and the work the moderators are doing, I do find it surprising that the moderation team read that post as a dogwhistle. I actually doubt they read it and have just gone straight to believing the report and removed it.
     More care needs to be taken.

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     Sooraj Sathyanarayanan (ianonymous3000@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:03:06 JST Sooraj Sathyanarayanan

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     @Gargron Appreciate the transparency! Thanks for your contribution ?

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     TheLargeGlass (thelargeglass@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:05:24 JST TheLargeGlass

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     @Gargron …And this is why so many people want to be on your instance!

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     Nicolay Doytchev (lightrush@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:07:57 JST Nicolay Doytchev

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     @Gargron the Reddit moderation model seems to scale. In Mastodon there doesn't seem to be as rigid topical structure to content, but I guess some similar topical division could be achieved by divvying up moderation by hashtags or groups of hashtags. Then you could have something like { * } for moderating any content, or any other combination. E.g. { science, astrophysics, aww, caturday }, { feminism, toxicmasculinity }. Good luck to whomever would be moderating the latter. ?

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     Molotov Cockatiel Games (Bill) (molotovcockatiel@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:18:31 JST Molotov Cockatiel Games (Bill)

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     @Gargron Way to go, Eugen. Love the transparency and immediate response even during intense growth.

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     thiago (thmosqueiro@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:20:39 JST thiago

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     @Gargron Thanks for the updates! Is the information on how to appeal publicly available? Hopefully only for those very few false positive cases, of course :)

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:21:32 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Erica Ifill
     • David Megginson

     @david_megginson I am talking about @wickdchiq's account being suspended because of a report alleging it's a fake account, and a tweet being misread to support it. It's an unfortunate mistake. Nobody is banned for posting about racism.

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     David Megginson (david_megginson@mstdn.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:21:35 JST David Megginson

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     @Gargron If you're talking about @wickdchiq being banned for posting about #racism, please come out and say it. Please also tell us what action you've taken with the moderator.

     Racism won't go away if we pretend it's not there, and it flourishes when we're too scared to talk about it.

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     ForeverAndaDay (foreverandaday@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:26:49 JST ForeverAndaDay

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     @Gargron appreciate the transparency! keep it up!

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:31:31 JST Chris Trottier

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     @Gargron Glad to hear it! Hopefully more budget is allocated for moderation now that funding for Mastodon has increased ?

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     Atoz ? (msatoz@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:34:11 JST Atoz ?

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     @Gargron Thank you to you and everyone keeping the place ticking along. I think when people understand the size of the challenges, most are understanding.

     Keep up the good work!

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     Bert Latamore (bertl@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:34:20 JST Bert Latamore

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     @Gargron Great work at a very difficult moment in our history. One problem for this instance specifically is that it is a natural attractant for nubies. It is mastodon.social, after all, so it looks like it is Mastodon for people used to the monolithic services. Another issue is finding the right instance to join. I try to go through the list sometimes, and it is overwhelming. A curated list organized by subject would be very helpful.

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     Änn Euing 📜 (chickamora@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:35:13 JST Änn Euing 📜

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     @Gargron How are moderators trained to do this work? What is the diversity of the moderation team like? If it is mostly white, please hire more BIPOC people onto the team.

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     Bert Latamore (bertl@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:35:27 JST Bert Latamore

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     @Gargron You and your team are doing a terrific job dealing with the flood of new people.

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     William Gunn (williamgunn@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:48:27 JST William Gunn

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     @Gargron Now's the time, if you haven't already, to hire a moderation firm and keep the identity of the moderation staff private. Otherwise it's just pressure campaign after pressure campaign on the poor folks. I can recommend some good firms.

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     LA Sunshine (lasunshine@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 07:54:06 JST LA Sunshine

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     @Gargron you’re doing great work, hopefully we can create and maintain an environment where our own behaviors will help you and the moderators not get snowed under by an avalanche of reports. I know that’s really naive, but hope springs eternal.

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     Amr Ghazy (3mr@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 08:01:32 JST Amr Ghazy

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     @Gargron as long as transparency continues to be a part of how things evolve, it will be great

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     Chris Godwin (chrisgodwin@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 08:09:22 JST Chris Godwin

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     @Gargron moderation can be very difficult, there will be mistakes but it's fixing them that counts! All the mods are doing a great job under an unprecedented flood of toots. You've all put in incredible effort and it shows ?

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 08:26:58 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Alex, Oasis Keeper

     @WizardOfDocs Our moderators are paid.

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     Alex, Oasis Keeper (wizardofdocs@wandering.shop)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 08:27:00 JST Alex, Oasis Keeper

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     @Gargron if you pay your moderators, this will happen a lot less

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     Janis (janiskay@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 09:06:32 JST Janis

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     @Gargron for at least 24 hours I couldn’t follow anyone. Is there something that may have triggered that or just a hiccup?

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     Theo Schlossnagle (postwait@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 09:33:47 JST Theo Schlossnagle

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     @Gargron thanks for all the hard work. Thanks to you and thanks to the moderation team.

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     Victoria De Capua (victoriadecapua@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 09:52:44 JST Victoria De Capua

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     @Gargron I don’t envy you. But I think as long as everyone is staying precious about not having a central mechanism (at least a centralized UI) you’re going to see these issues skyrocket exponentially. Things simply will not remain stable without some adaptation.

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     Alon (alon@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 10:13:37 JST Alon

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     @Gargron How many mods are American vs. European? Asking because US norms of anti-racism (~nobody calls it anti-fascism there) differ from ours a bit, and the case I saw of the Asian woman who complained of having to read books by white men would be an obvious no-violation-of-TOS case to an American anti-racist, but a white European may be unfamiliar with nonwhite anti-racist norms (and let's face it, Berlin Antifa spaces are very white - I don't remember seeing POC at B-Lage, Lovelite, etc.).

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     Ms. Penny ? Oaken (pennyoaken@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 10:21:54 JST Ms. Penny ? Oaken

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     @Gargron Constructive criticism of moderation process (to help improve):

     Any moderation action that will result in the suspension of a user account should be subject to a “two-person” approval - that two people with mod privileges approve a suspension.
     The second person should be encouraged to be adversarial to the motion to suspend the user - “devil’s advocate” - and have the ability to escalate to a third person (one with executive agency) to tiebreak / document / improve the process.

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     Da Gummit Elaine! (newsthyme@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 10:44:15 JST Da Gummit Elaine!

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     @Gargron sometimes it's not how you mess up, it's how you fix it. ?

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     ask330 ?‍☠️? (ask330@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 10:48:58 JST ask330 ?‍☠️?

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     @Gargron TY for your hard work!

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     Don the Dreamer (snabulus@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 11:39:36 JST Don the Dreamer

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     @Gargron We know you all are experiencing what "going viral" feels like. I am going to cut you a great deal of slack and I suggest others do the same.

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     Chris Squire (themagicwoodbus@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 12:44:07 JST Chris Squire

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     @Gargron I’m sure It’s a learning experience.

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     ocdtrekkie (ocdtrekkie@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 12:45:50 JST ocdtrekkie

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     @Gargron Are you still growing the moderation team at this time?

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     kurtseifried (he/him) (kurtseifried@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 13:21:59 JST kurtseifried (he/him)

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     @Gargron Transparency and appeals being possible is a huge step forwards compared to say Twitter. Plus, worst-case scenario, you can join another server if the process goes sideways somehow. I feel like federated services will be much like democracy, terrible, but far less terrible than the other things we tried.

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     Heidi Li Feldman (heidilifeldman@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 14:04:51 JST Heidi Li Feldman

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     @Gargron No system is perfect, nobody is infallible. Your team has had a lot to absorb. I have been assuming that you and they are operating in good faith and I will continue to assume that. Appreciate hearing from you on the challenges and efforts to address them.

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     cozyGalvinism :gnomed: (cozygalvinism@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 17:13:10 JST cozyGalvinism :gnomed:

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     @Gargron Thank you for your hard work! Really appreciate it!

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     DaWoDerPfeffer (dawoderpfeffer@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 19:12:58 JST DaWoDerPfeffer

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     @Gargron
     Thank you for the prompt and fast adaptation to all the changes your Mastodon Instances are facing right now!

     I do have an important request though:
     Please make sure, that the team of moderators has a majority of BIPoC, LGBTQIA+, female, religious and political "minorities", so that the moderation will not end up to be according to the severely restricted Endo CIS straight white male's ideas of the world and what is "normal"! ?

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     Tim J ? (tim_in_mpls@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Nov-2022 23:46:27 JST Tim J ?

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     • Nathan ?️‍?

     @Gargron: Know @nathan by chance? He’s wrongfully suspended @CODEPINK@mastodon.lol - Which makes me question why I should even want to be here.

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     Peer Locher (peerlo@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Nov-2022 00:15:03 JST Peer Locher

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     @Gargron thank you for letting us now and thank you for all that youre doing.

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     Irving's Zoo (irvings_zoo@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Nov-2022 00:31:13 JST Irving's Zoo

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     @Gargron It seems to me the way to do this is investigate first, BEFORE suspending. Doing it this way seems bass-ackwards.

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     Carol Hedges (riotgrandma72@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Nov-2022 01:34:03 JST Carol Hedges

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     @Gargron thank you for letting us know

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     Ricardo Malagon (rjmalagon@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Nov-2022 02:08:12 JST Ricardo Malagon

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     @Gargron A human approach to undone mistakes is always welcome.

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     Tristan Louis (tnlnyc@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Nov-2022 11:38:25 JST Tristan Louis

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     @Gargron I know you've resisted calls for distributed mod tools (eg. Blocklists going from instance to instance) in the past. In light of the new volume problem, would you consider being more open to such approaches and building/merging code into the main branch that would allow:
     a. an instance to get admin decisions from another instance to help inform/drive their decision
     b. A model where instances could publish or subscribe (via ActivityPub) to a list of mod activities.
     These would help.

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     Pete_Needham (pete_needham@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 00:14:28 JST Pete_Needham

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     @Gargron The problem is that you HAVE a moderation team. Moderators distort and ruin everything that they touch.

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     William (dxgl@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Nov-2022 18:51:45 JST William

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     @Gargron A question regarding your site, do you plan on adding TLS 1.3 support? Also, your ciphersuites seem to be triggering a grade cap of B on SSL Labs due to one of the reference browsers not using a Perfect Forward Secrecy ciphersuite.