Apropos of I don’t know
34 min
Thre researcher 2.0
The network censorship society, UK version. This is rapidly unfolding in the United States as well. Look at all this age verification shit.
Apropos of I don’t know
34 min
Thre researcher 2.0
The network censorship society, UK version. This is rapidly unfolding in the United States as well. Look at all this age verification shit.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @ChrisMayLA6 @HarriettMB @dlakelan "Families" are absolutely not a reasonable basis for instances.
@karlauerbach @elfin @ChrisMayLA6 @HarriettMB
You know what’s interesting about something like the fediverse? It has a potential for families to have their own mastodon instance for starters..
What would it be like if the family had its own instance that didn’t really require any technological know how to just click a button set up your instance parents could or even the kids and with the deliberate intention of making it the family’s base into the Internet or into social media.
@stefan @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @ChrisMayLA6 @HarriettMB @dlakelan With the power relationship instances currently entail, they should be run by a party whe has sufficient detachment and commitment to impartiality dealing with moderation issues. Not someone you already have a complicated interpersonal power dynamic with.
I was just about to say. At least not without local-only posts and shared blocklists.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @ChrisMayLA6 @HarriettMB @dlakelan
@dlakelan @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @ChrisMayLA6 @HarriettMB Instance has nothing to do with discovery unless you use the federated or local timeline or hashtags. Much better discovery is via your follow relationships and the boosts and replies. Which just requires seeding some follows of people with shared interests and values, and doesn't involve any power dynamic.
@dalias
i dont necessarily disagree but wonder what your reasoning is?
My own thinking is that without enough people on an instance you are too isolated to have good discovery of your people. Some of this is helped by relays I guess... ? not sure.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @ChrisMayLA6 @HarriettMB
@ChrisMayLA6 @dlakelan @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @HarriettMB If you follow or search a hashtag, you see only matching posts that have federated to your instance in some way. Via following, following someone who boosted, @'ing someone on your instance, etc.
@dlakelan @dalias @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @HarriettMB
Hmmm.... is that right?
@ChrisMayLA6
unless you follow someone on an instance your instance doesn't see hashtag posts originating on the other instance AFAIK.
@dalias @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @HarriettMB
@dlakelan @dalias @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @HarriettMB
Surely that's where judicious use of the hashtag comes in?
@dlakelan @ChrisMayLA6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @HarriettMB Even if it originates on an instance your instance *does* talk to, if nobody on your instance interacts with the author of the post with the hashtag, you won't see it.
This is a very good thing - it's what limits the ability of hashtags to be used for spam. If you try to use hashtags for spam, at best you'll reach folks on your own instance. Because nobody else on other instances is going to be following or interacting with your spambot account.
That's a better description yeah, your instance only interacts with the union of all instances people on your instance interact with (following people, or receiving boosts from people you follow basically). So if a hashtag post originates on an instance your instance doesn't normally talk to... you'll never see it.
@dalias
@ChrisMayLA6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @elfin @HarriettMB
@elfin @dlakelan @ChrisMayLA6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @HarriettMB I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with - I think you misunderstood me. Blocking/filtering hashtags and how that works is entirely unrelated to how they federate.
When I talk about "used for spam", I'm not talking about hashtags you don't want to see, but attaching a popular hashtag to an unrelated toot just to put your toot in front of people who follow that hashtag. This naturally doesn't accomplish much due to how federation works.
@dalias @dlakelan @ChrisMayLA6 @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @HarriettMB Um, I do not mean to be difficult ... but what you just said is not correct across platforms.
I can block hashtags (I hate NFL for example) and that blocks from all instances regardless. Crusing an abusive user or platform is way more useful. But tell me what you think on this. I do not think I'm understanding.
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