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   :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:41:41 JST :ihavenomouth:
   there seems to be four kinds of indie games in the current year: deckbuilder, idle, incremental, and factorio but dogshit
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:44:03 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @mint those died out in 2024, now it’s quirky depression idle games
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:44:04 JST 

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     @Inginsub What about quirky depression RPGs?
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     ‎ (azure@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:48:46 JST ‎

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     @Inginsub @mint what about the boomerbait shooterslop
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     ‎ (azure@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:49:26 JST ‎

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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:54:46 JST 

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     @Inginsub Well new chapters of tobyslop were enough to crash Steam payment processing for a minute, but apart from it I don't even remember any notable releases. Though of YIIK I.V but turns out it came in December.
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:55:27 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     • ur angle, or ur devil.....
     @ligma_male that's gonna be TES6
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     ur angle, or ur devil..... (ligma_male@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:55:28 JST ur angle, or ur devil.....

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     @Inginsub imagine how peak society will be when we finally attain idle incremental deckbuilder dogshit

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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 18:56:53 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @azure @mint they stopped making those too, now it's troonbait troonslop
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     CJ (The Sheriff) (colonelj@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 19:39:55 JST CJ (The Sheriff)

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     @mint @Inginsub the new slop format is movement slop
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 19:40:00 JST 

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     @colonelj @Inginsub would
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     dieulast (dieulast@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 20:31:37 JST dieulast

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     @azure @Inginsub @mint My PC needs specs like this so it can run a sprite shooter that looks like that. (Beyond Citadel)
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 20:34:16 JST 

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     @dieulast @Inginsub @azure Lemme guess, UE5?
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     dieulast (dieulast@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 21:04:23 JST dieulast

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     @mint @Inginsub @azure Close enough, UE4
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     ICScaryThings (icst@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 01-Dec-2025 14:53:18 JST ICScaryThings

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     @Inginsub how are idle and incremental even genres? Would people just idly watch numbers increment now?
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 01-Dec-2025 14:56:33 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @icst yes, apparently. incremental games are more like roguelikes, but with the rogue part dropped entirely and based entirely around meta-progression instead of skill.
     we've been getting a lot of both genres ever since ai coding became a thing, and i don't think that's a coincidence
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     Yomiel (yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 04-Dec-2025 04:17:15 JST Yomiel

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     Deckbuilders piss me off so bad. Why are 9/10 modern indie games a fucking deckbuilder?
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Dec-2025 04:17:54 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @yomiel because a real game is hard to design
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Dec-2025 11:36:34 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     @Originalboy2 @yomiel it's the same problem as with a lot of incremental games: the developer puts in a lot of upgrades that may or may not synergize with each other, and either doesn't balance it at all or balances it by making difficulty levels increase enemy health or shields. Most of those games aren't fun to play at all or are only fun by accident. Some really lean into making game-breaking builds and have unique mechanics for that, like Diceomancer, but usually it feels like there's a unity preset that only requires you to drop assets into the editor and input the stat numbers.
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     Originalboy2 (originalboy2@spodeli.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Dec-2025 11:36:36 JST Originalboy2

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     @yomiel @Inginsub
     thats a great point i didnt think about.
     
     i think a point to add to that is that the strategy in most indie card games is just do mental math to get the biggest number during your turn, but good card games don't make you do mental math until after the real strategy of the game occurs. In Magic it's bluffing and pushing, and in yugioh it's making and breaking boards.
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     Yomiel (yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 04-Dec-2025 11:36:37 JST Yomiel

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     @Originalboy2 @Inginsub
     There's also the fact that 90% of the fun of a game like Yu-Gi-Oh! or Magic is playing your opponent, especially in Yu-Gi-Oh!
     
     Not as fun to 'play' a computer, much less random fodder enemies.
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     Originalboy2 (originalboy2@spodeli.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Dec-2025 11:36:38 JST Originalboy2

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     @yomiel @Inginsub but i also find a lot of indie deckbuilders uninspired and boring because they aren't unique enough and just copy the same tried-and-true mechanics like mana or what cards can do
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     Originalboy2 (originalboy2@spodeli.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Dec-2025 11:36:39 JST Originalboy2

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     @yomiel @Inginsub
     sorry for wall of text btw...
     
     they are simple to design but lead to complex gameplay (emergent design).
     
     They are highly replayable games and it's hard to do that quickly as a small indie team for most other game genres.
     
     It also gives you the same satisfaction that one gets from puzzle games. The puzzles are just presented differently (both deckbuilding and sequencing when playing cards).
     
     I should let you know though that I am extremely biased when it comes to this topic because I've done a lot of studying on the genre and my favorite game is yugioh...
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     Originalboy2 (originalboy2@spodeli.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 03:42:37 JST Originalboy2

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     @Inginsub @yomiel
     not to brag but im gonna plug shamefully, i made an incremental game a couple years ago that has unique and fun progression https://originalboy2.itch.io/genesis it's fun
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     Originalboy2 (originalboy2@spodeli.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 05:21:44 JST Originalboy2

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     @Inginsub @yomiel that's one of my online friends lol
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 05:21:45 JST :ihavenomouth:

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