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   ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Oct-2025 23:52:22 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

   people are like "don't put all of your infrastructure on github, if github is down it will stop working!!1" but i put all of my infrastructure on codeberg and now that codeberg is down it stopped working. please advise

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     Josh Simmons (dotstdy@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Oct-2025 23:53:33 JST Josh Simmons

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     @whitequark one file per provider is the only true distributed solution. Then you'll only be missing one part of your software if a vendor goes down.

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     Jess👾 (jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 00:04:05 JST Jess👾

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     I'm self hosting all my infrastructure on my own infrastructure. And then my infrastructure went down. So I don't have any infrastructure to run my infrastructure infrastructure.
     @whitequark

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     AlexB (vmp_@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 00:06:18 JST AlexB

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     @whitequark inb4 custom WhitequarkHub

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     schrotthaufen (schrotthaufen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 00:08:28 JST schrotthaufen

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     @whitequark We need a globally distributed CEPH cluster. One node per household!

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 00:08:32 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • AlexB

     @vmp_ forge.whitequark.org exists

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     Simon Brenner (olsner@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 00:21:24 JST Simon Brenner

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     @whitequark I think the modern solution is to make your infrastructure so publicly known you can simply ask any AI service to recreate it.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 00:21:24 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Simon Brenner

     @olsner most of mine is actually exposed on github/etc for this sort of reason. well, not literally AI, but the "what if I lose all of my keys" one

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     AlexB (vmp_@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 00:26:41 JST AlexB

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     @whitequark oooh, neat

     I would like to withdraw my untimely inb4.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 01:15:32 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Ignas Kiela
     • squalouJenkins

     @squalouJenkins @ignaloidas yeah, you gotta "curl | sh"

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     squalouJenkins (squaloujenkins@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 01:15:33 JST squalouJenkins

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     • Ignas Kiela

     @ignaloidas @whitequark sadly an installation documentation starting by "sudo npm install --global ..." is not really feeling serious :)

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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 01:15:34 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @whitequark@mastodon.social putting everything on Gittorrent from now on
     
     https://github.com/cjb/GitTorrent
     
     (I don't particularly enjoy the bitcoin integration, but it's probably the least bad way to get stable ids)

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 01:21:43 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @whitequark Mirror on different forges?

     Although here I just self-host on two barebones git servers instead, sharing the same hostname (anongit.).

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:17:21 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • James Tucker

     @raggi instructions unclear, caused an us-east-1 outage

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     James Tucker (raggi@don.rag.pub)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:17:22 JST James Tucker

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     @whitequark just git on with it

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     squalouJenkins (squaloujenkins@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:06:55 JST squalouJenkins

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     • Ignas Kiela

     @ignaloidas @whitequark except it's not system packages we're talking about, but a mess of dev libs, possibly not coping well with one another.
     Pretending --global replaces a packaging system is insane.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:06:55 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Ignas Kiela
     • squalouJenkins

     @squalouJenkins @ignaloidas you sound fun at parties

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     squalouJenkins (squaloujenkins@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:06:57 JST squalouJenkins

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     • Ignas Kiela

     @ignaloidas @whitequark the --global and sudo is the problematic (and useless) part.

     Especially with target audience.

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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:06:57 JST Ignas Kiela

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     • squalouJenkins

     @squalouJenkins@fosstodon.org @whitequark@mastodon.social I mean, it didn't get massively popular, if it did you'd probably get it from whatever distro package manager with "sudo apt/dnf/apk/etc install"

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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:06:59 JST Ignas Kiela

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     • squalouJenkins

     @squalouJenkins@fosstodon.org @whitequark@mastodon.social I mean it's about equivalent to pip install
     
     it's just the fact that JS has a better module system then other languages

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 04:23:17 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • masukomi

     @masukomi (was not a serious question)

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     masukomi (masukomi@connectified.com)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 04:23:18 JST masukomi

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     @whitequark Throw Gitea on a Pi and have it mirror your repos on GitHub / Codeberg / wherever. Then just interact with the Gitea server if the main ones go down. Use Tailscale funnel if you need to expose your Gitea to others.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:18:09 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

     @IngaLovinde self-hosting everything, the "libertarianism worked out so well in other parts of our life, so we should try it again here" answer

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     Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 (ingalovinde@embracing.space)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:18:10 JST Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

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     @whitequark yeah the problem is not even github per se, it's centralization, people really should stay away from all these large services and recommend these specific names. Doesn't matter whether it's github or codeberg, one way or another it's going to go down at some point and you'll be left with nothing. We've been tricked by capitalism to use the corporate services that rob us of agency, and reinventing "corporate-lite" in "more independent" form is not a solution; self-hosting is the only answer.
     Take me for example, I moved away from all these githubs and gitlabs and codebergs and migrated all my repos to a self-hosted gitea/forgejo, and then AI scrapers came to it with their 10k git blame requests per second, and I had to shut the entire server down, and since then I didn't have any problems anymore.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:20:07 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

     @IngaLovinde I know you're not being fully serious, but this has been irking me for a long time, so you get to listen to it; I don't think there's anything _inherently_ wrong with centralization! I'm not "self-hosting" my electricity, or water, or nutrition, or pharmaceuticals, and with some extremely situational exceptions my ability to do those things, even if I wanted to, would only go down! not self-hosting them allows me to participate in, well, society

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:22:30 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

     @IngaLovinde Subsistence agriculture is probably the closest thing to a literal vision of Hell on Earth and nobody should suffer it and that and _many other_ things obviously benefit from centralization. GitHub is currently in the "we made pipes out of lead and stopped putting the chemicals that stop lead from leaching out of the pipes" phase of development of centralized communities, which is a problem but a problem strictly inherent to what they're doing

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:22:30 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

     @IngaLovinde Anyway I'm fine with deployments being impossible if the electricity for whole of the UK comes down, I'm not fine with deployments being impossible if electricity comes down for any of the 46 people whose libraries I'm using, thank you for coming to my TEDx talk

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:23:38 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • fraggLe!

     @fwaggle (what's IaC?) also yes this would legitimately, unironically work

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     fraggLe! (fwaggle@moodoo.org)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:23:40 JST fraggLe!

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     @whitequark My plan is my IaC stuff will be mirrored on both, with runners on both. On each commit, they fight and one wins.

     If one is down, the other easily wins.

     They can't both be down, so this plan is perfect.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:25:12 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

     @IngaLovinde that's been the single most traumatizing activity for me as an adult (excluding workspace interactions); can't relate

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     Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 (ingalovinde@embracing.space)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 06:25:13 JST Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

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     @whitequark yeah I heard so much shit about libertarianism, but then I tried self-hosting cute gay catgirls in my bed and it turned out to be good actually!

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 08:33:09 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Jess👾

     @JessTheUnstill classic mistake

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Oct-2025 00:28:35 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Richard Hendricks

     @hendric :)

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     Richard Hendricks (hendric@astronomy.city)'s status on Sunday, 26-Oct-2025 00:28:37 JST Richard Hendricks

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     @whitequark big brain solution: put pieces of your infrastructure on everything, that way if any of them goes down, you are down.

     Wait a minute...

     😱