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Literally nobody ever does.
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@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @Hoss > Its the Graveyard of Empires.... except for ours :smugcat:
I don't even understand the value behind it. Not very fertile, not very rich in minerals (or at least developed as such), not exactly useful geography (a staging ground for a first strike on Siberia or Tibet? Lmao). Its just a bunch of mountains and surrounded by a bunch of countries hostile to the US these days. But maybe Trump is just looking for another PR victory like bombing the empty Nuclear Facility in Iran.
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They do have a lot of minerals, but exploiting those resources requires billions of dollars worth of infrastructure investments which typically require governments more stable than a fractured tribalist anarchy to court from abroad.
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@Hoss @Largo @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta Yeah all their rare earth minerals are seemingly impossible to minerals fir whatever logistical reasons
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It's because it's Afghanistan. It's not even an Islam thing, it's a Afghan-specific curse. Plenty of other Islamist hellholes keep it together enough to pull shit out of the ground, but not Afghanistan.
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You ain't controlling shit in Afghanistan without total war levels of brutality that the public won't be able to stomach. It's just not worth it.
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I suspect that dealing with the Taliban IS possible, but the US doesn't want to. The US wants a corrupt king or dictator they can bribe, or a bullshit democracy they can manipulate, and the Taliban doesn't really offer either.
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@Hoss @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @Largo @egirlyuumimain 20 years in Afghanistan and the US controlled some districts of the capital on a good day
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its a shithole sandbox , and claimed American lives .. much like Iraq .. we have no business in either
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Afghanistan didn't have a government when we went in, and they didn't have a government when we left. High order nation state governance is simply not in their nature. Even Iraq had some kind of government when we left, even if said government was ISIS for a while.
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The Taliban is essentially just the most powerful tribal faction in the region. Large parts of the country are still controlled by powerful regional warlords who are de facto sovereign authorities in their own right.
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Nah, the Taliban is a government, whatever the western propaganda wants to think. They maintain relative order over there.
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I just doubt the Taliban is organized enough to really enforce its mandate across the whole country. At most I imagine these warlords symbolically took a knee to Taliban authority before going back to doing whatever they want as they have for decades.
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According to BBC (for whatever it's worth), that was kind of true for like a moment, when the US pulled out, but the Taliban very quickly conquered back the entire country.
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I'm not saying the Taliban isn't governing a good chunk of the country. I'm saying I don't think they're really governing all of it, but they're not in an adversarial relationship with the parts that are de facto independent, unlike the American puppet government.
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You know the reason why the Taliban survived the US invasion? Courts. They ran courts with judges where you could bring your complaints and they were fair.
People went to Taliban courts rather than the US backed regime's courts because those were so corrupt that you knew everything was based on how much bribe you paid. The Taliban won by legitimacy.
And what's so amazing about courts is you can make a finding, and if you're not the de-jour police you can't jail someone or seize property, but whenever someone refuses to submit to your jurisdiction, you put them on a list, and the ones that get to the top of the list get popped.
So 99% of the people will just accept the jurisdiction of your courts and you can basically just continue operating as a government.