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   otso (otso@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 02:56:38 JST otso
   why tf does anyone use spotify? youtube is literally better in every way, and free at that.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 02:56:37 JST 翠星石

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     @otso youtube is not free - it's proprietary malware.
     
     "People" cannot handle setting up a playlist in VLC, thus they need master to setup the playlist for them and the lower bandwidth requirement of opus appears to not buffer as hard as videos during a non-perfect mobile collection.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:00:19 JST 翠星石

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     @otso GNU/Jihad against "FOSS"!!!!!!
     
     The "youtube" clients just apply a few patches while running the same proprietary malware.
     
     
     There is the free invidious frontend that works without JavaScript.
     
     It is also possible to download or stream video with yt-dlp{+mpv}.
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     otso (otso@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:00:20 JST otso

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     @Suiseiseki you can get newpipe for phones and pcs have foss clients for yt as well.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:02:29 JST djsumdog

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     Not really. I've been collective music for 20 years. 25,000 songs and I can sync it to a cheap microSD card today.
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     FWC (fwc@0.5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:02:30 JST FWC

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     @Mamako @otso Requires a pretty significant amount of storage and you are very limited by the size of a CD

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     FWC (fwc@0.5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:02:31 JST FWC

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     @otso Very true. More variety on YT music, too.

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     Makako (mamako@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:02:31 JST Makako

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     @fwc @otso why don’t people just pirate music and burn cds?
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:23:15 JST djsumdog

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     I don't use either. If someone sends me a Spotify link, I just use spotdl:
     
     https://github.com/spotDL/spotify-downloader
     
     It grabs the YouTube music version of an album based off of the Spotify album metadata.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 20:53:47 JST 翠星石

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     @shitpisscum @otso Jellyfin is proprietary because it is written in C#.
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     shitpisscum (shitpisscum@mrhands.horse)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 20:53:48 JST shitpisscum

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     @Suiseiseki @otso And from my limited experimentation it's not even good playlists, spotify gets a gew good tracks and then it keeps playing kind of related but not quite what I'd play, yt gets stuck in "loops" of the same ~10 tracks. Thank you but I'll stick with Jellyfin and my own playlists.
     Inb4 Jellyfin is proprietary because it's built with .net iirc
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 20:59:35 JST 翠星石

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     @irie @otso I am championing free software.
     
     The only possible alternative to proprietary slavery would be proprietary slavery to another company - a free replacement like downloading the audio files and playing them with free software is indeed very different.
     
     >but my post was for all the times someone can't use that/no access whatever.
     Bittorrent and other free software audio file downloading will always be available.
     
     >quite well when you exploit them and deprive them of revenue
     The only thing being exploited is you.
     
     You are not depriving them of revenue - they are still gaining revenue from spying on you - you're just merely not so dumb to pay to be spied on.
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     イリエ (irie@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 20:59:38 JST イリエ

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     @Suiseiseki @otso uh yes, I mean for those who choose to use it. Speaking of open source, foss, or whatever you're championing, I don't think there is any alternative to the big proprietary apps. I mean torrenting exists, yeah I do it too, but my post was for all the times someone can't use that/no access whatever. I find you can live with those closed systems quite well when you exploit them and deprive them of revenue
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 20:59:39 JST 翠星石

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     @irie @otso No-one is forced to use youtube music - there is the weak willed.
     
     Revanced doesn't magically turn the proprietary malware into not malware - removing ads and some of the antifeatures doesn't do that.
     
     VLC Android does playlists great and contains no antifeatures.
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     イリエ (irie@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 20:59:40 JST イリエ

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     @Suiseiseki @otso I use both, offline setup and online. I only use offline when possible, and online for all those other times. By the way, for those who are forced to use YouTube Music, make sure to patch them with Revanced, it removes all the ads and silly restrictions.
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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 21:13:25 JST LisPi

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     • shitpisscum
     @Suiseiseki @otso @shitpisscum For those wondering how much of a shitshow C# & dotnet are: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-patches/2024-11/msg02339.html
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