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   Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 03:35:00 JST Blurry Moon
   @kura there are many reasons why releasing the actual server without releasing the entire source code is basically impossible
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 03:36:57 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Birdulon
     @birdulon @kura it is a valid excuse and the fact that you can find one game where it wasn't so bad means very little. you encode this in law and now you have people suing in the EU because the release wasn't easy enough and characterized as malicious compliance.
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     Birdulon (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 03:36:58 JST Birdulon

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     @sun @kura My favourite excuse is "it would be too hard for people to run anyway, it's ten services split across big iron with esoteric hardcoded environment requirements." Meanwhile, when Genshin Impact server binaries got leaked, people managed to get things self-hostable very very quickly despite missing critical db things that weren't included in the leaks.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 03:40:19 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Birdulon
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     @i @kura @birdulon I said in a previous post that allowing people to reimplement server software without being sued is a suitable middle ground
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 03:40:20 JST :blank:

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     • Birdulon
     @birdulon @kura @sun can't believe a tiny indie company like microsoft+activision+blizzard will have to shut down wow of warcraft now, don't you know it's literally impossible to run a private server, no matter how many lawsuits against homebrew dedicated server hosters showing the opposite there have been?
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 03:44:26 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Birdulon
     @birdulon @kura yeah the community will do the work so it's not an excuse to provide nothing but under a legal requirement this might not be considered good enough. the EU just passes bullshit vague requirements then selectively punishes arbitraryly-defined non-compliance
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     Birdulon (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 03:44:28 JST Birdulon

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     • Birdulon
     @sun @kura I should clarify, the leaked server binaries absolutely were the mess of "works on my machine" that any reasonably cynical dev expected. And yet.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:41:47 JST 翠星石

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     @sun @kura That is rarely the case, but if that is the case, they can just release the source code under a free license (there is not excuse not to, as it's not like copies of the game will be available for sale).
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:51:35 JST 翠星石

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     • Pi_rat
     @Pi_rat @kura @sun The software wouldn't be free at the end of life - as only the server code would be free.
     
     It's not really that hard to remove the backdoor from the source code.
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     Pi_rat (pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:51:37 JST Pi_rat

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki @sun @kura I think they wouldnt release software because it sets precedence and expectation that software will be free at the end of life. Also their backdoor may be found.