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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:08:39 JST prettygood
If a site/service/software limits what characters you can use in a password, I will personally guarantee that they are mishandling your security in some way or another, probably multiple ways. -
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crow (crow@irlqt.me)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:13:12 JST crow
@prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer real - i always assume it's in plain text somewhere
probably a VARCHAR64 column in an ancient MySQL dbprettygood likes this. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:18:55 JST prettygood
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gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:18:56 JST gray
@prettygood I had a work website say I wasn’t supposed to use a password manager to save my password so I just saved it into an Outlook sticky note -
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Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:19:06 JST Nudhul
@prettygood same with an unreasonable minimum length prettygood likes this. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:20:06 JST prettygood
@Paradox my go-to is 64 characters, full ASCII set, randomized. It works more often than not, but the notable exceptions always seem to be the important places, like financial institutions and core service providers. -
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Paradox (paradox@raru.re)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:20:08 JST Paradox
@prettygood I haven't found a single one that lets you use anything and everything.
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gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:20:58 JST gray
@prettygood it is also one of the bullshit sites that forces you to change your password every 90 days or something prettygood likes this. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:21:19 JST prettygood
@gray this doesn't bother me, I have a lot of entropy to expend on generating random strings -
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Epsi (epsi@akko.wtf)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:21:41 JST Epsi
@prettygood no single quote or <> allowed hmmm... prettygood likes this. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:21:58 JST prettygood
@epsi little bobby XML parser (bullshitting) -
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Paradox (paradox@raru.re)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:22:45 JST Paradox
@prettygood I have never thought about using carriage returns in my passwords. I don't even know if I could copypaste one. That's interesting.
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Epsi (epsi@akko.wtf)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:24:02 JST Epsi
@prettygood yeah I'm just musing haha prettygood likes this. -
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Vo (vo@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:29:09 JST Vo
@prettygood @gray My credit union got bought out or are outsourcing their online services (idk which I can't keep up, changes like this happen yearly) and the new service's mobile app won't let you paste your password from your password manager. Browser works fine though.
I don't know what this is supposed to prevent. Are they worried about hackers brute-forcing via Android automation or something?? They wouldn't need the clipboard then...
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:29:45 JST prettygood
@Vo @gray some executive got fed some bullshit at some conference and dictated bad policy to the org and now we're all worse off for it. That's just how it goes, unfortunately. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:31:08 JST prettygood
@Vo @Paradox would you believe I've seen this happen as well? -
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Vo (vo@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:31:09 JST Vo
@prettygood @Paradox I found a site once that said (and accepted) 8-64 length but actually truncated to 63 before salting/hashing/storing. That was fun to figure out.
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Vo (vo@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:35:58 JST Vo
@prettygood @Paradox we're past "poweruser" and into the "edge case" fringe, apparently
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Vo (vo@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:38:48 JST Vo
@prettygood @gray they made me choose a username (instead of just using the debit card number like the old site) so I took the opportunity to call their app some tasteful cusswords
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Sparkler (sparkler@mastodon.is-a.horse)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:38:53 JST Sparkler
@Vo @prettygood @Paradox Hotmail/outlook used to do this, except it was 16 characters
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Vo (vo@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 10:54:32 JST Vo
@sparkler @prettygood @Paradox I guess it would work fine (but insecurely) if the login page did the same truncate, but alas
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 11:00:59 JST prettygood
@professionalbigot69 sauce? Bold claim. I wouldn't be surprised -
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Ulysses (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 11:01:00 JST Ulysses
@prettygood Cloudflare MITMs passwords entered through the front end btw -
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Ulysses (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 11:22:23 JST Ulysses
@prettygood In their developers knowledgebase:
https://developers.cloudflare.com/fundamentals/account/account-security/leaked-password-notifications/ -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Monday, 09-Jun-2025 11:22:23 JST prettygood
@professionalbigot69 oh so they're MITMing your CF password, not just any old thing entered into a CF hosted/proxied site. I misunderstood. In conversation permalink
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