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   Aaron (hosford42@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-May-2025 07:29:44 JST Aaron

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   @PhoenixSerenity @giflian Sometimes I think the biggest hindrance to autistic people "mind reading" is that we see too much, not too little, making us way more likely to get mixed signals when people put up fronts.

   It also causes problems when we try to interpret motives, because while an NT thinks the reason is "obvious" (even when their conclusion is incorrect) we can see a hundred different possibilities. We piss them off because we don't play by the rules they expect everyone to play by, where there's a standardized "correct" interpretation for every social interaction, because we don't automatically make assumptions.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 31-May-2025 07:31:33 JST Rich Felker

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     @hosford42 @PhoenixSerenity @giflian Related: IQ test questions that expect you to determine The One Correct* formula that generated an extremely finite sequence of 3 or 4 numbers.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 31-May-2025 07:38:52 JST Rich Felker

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     @PhoenixSerenity @hosford42 @giflian They're explicitly eugenicist bullshit. The original one had questions where, to score higher, you had to declare the Black face "ugly" and the white face beautiful. But the modern parts that purport to actually be about intelligence are also bs. They basically classify simple-minded confidence (mediocre white dudes who've been raised to think they're special for agreeing with the pattern assessments of folks like themselves) as intelligence and intelligence to identify the infinitude of equally valid correct answers as "not intelligent".

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     Ms. Que Banh (phoenixserenity@beige.party)'s status on Saturday, 31-May-2025 07:38:53 JST Ms. Que Banh

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     @dalias
     I hated IQ tests. I think they're a farce.

     @hosford42 @giflian

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     Aaron (hosford42@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-May-2025 08:09:09 JST Aaron

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     @dalias @PhoenixSerenity @giflian That has always bothered me, too. There are infinite possible well-behaved, rule-based sequences that start with any given prefix. And asking the test taker to use simplicity as a guide overlooks that there are different "alphabets" of basic operations that can be used to express them, so even that is contextual.

     It always stuck out more for the verbal questions for me, though. Those were the ones where I was likely to not only get the question wrong, but be so irritated and frustrated with the ill-defined nature of the question that I ended up leaving a note in the margins criticizing the test's quality. There's a reason autistic people are better at puns. We see way more possibilities, and make way fewer assumptions about what's the "correct" way to interpret something.

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     Aaron (hosford42@techhub.social)'s status on Sunday, 01-Jun-2025 00:37:29 JST Aaron

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     @dalias @PhoenixSerenity @giflian My boss actually told me last week, point blank, with an utterly straight face, that there was no room for interpretation of her words. That's one of those statements that qualifies as Not Even Wrong, IMO.

     Every single word, phrase, clause, and sentence in every single language has multiple interpretations. Not just more than one. An *infinity* of them. That's why there can be people who think in pictures but not words, and people who think in words but not pictures, and we only just now, in my lifetime, picked up on the fact, despite eons of living right next to each other and even talking openly about our experiences. Most people with aphantasia grow up thinking that "picturing" something in your mind is a metaphor of some sort. And we just go right on talking to each other, with no one the wiser.

     No room for interpretation... LOLWTF

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     Jocelynephiliac :reclaimer: (twipped@twipped.social)'s status on Sunday, 01-Jun-2025 00:37:29 JST Jocelynephiliac :reclaimer:

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     @hosford42 meanwhile, english…

     @dalias @PhoenixSerenity @giflian