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   Karsten Johansson (ksaj@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 13:48:21 JST Karsten Johansson

   • Elias Mårtenson
   • Glitzersachen.de
   • Alfred M. Szmidt

   @glitzersachen @loke @amszmidt Format and loop are pretty durn close to kitchen sinks.

   I'd say format isn't even a very consistent sink. Every conversion it can make is reversable, except one (technically two, since it comes with a variant). And there's technically no reason it is missing.

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 13:48:20 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     • Glitzersachen.de

     @ksaj FORMAT and LOOP are relatively small, compare to sed or grep. Is sed a kitchen sink, it is about 2.3k lines in OpenBSD?

     wc -l:
     2694 sys2/loop.lisp
     1651 io/format.lisp
     980 GNU/coreutils/src/wc.c

     FORMAT is just 30 lines of code.

     @glitzersachen @loke

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 15:41:23 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     • Glitzersachen.de
     • (roll m3tti)

     @m3tti It is more subtle. C makes it very difficult to share code. Take FORMAT, there is a function called ROMAN-STEP which returns the "next" Roman number. I can use this trivially in any other part of the code, be it the system or some other separate program.

     @ksaj @glitzersachen @loke

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     (roll m3tti) (m3tti@functional.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 15:41:24 JST (roll m3tti)

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     • Glitzersachen.de
     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @amszmidt @ksaj @glitzersachen @loke i guess this is due the fact that lisp has a crazy load of core libraries that do a bunch of stuff. Like stringp loop macro ...