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   akai (akai@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 10:46:36 JST akai

   • pistolero
   @p oh no bro https://stallman.org/wendys.html
   
   i read stallman.org when im bored
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 10:47:30 JST pistolero

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     @akai He is always wrong about everything except the digital hellscape.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:16:16 JST pistolero

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     > i might not agree with all of his points, but i like alternate opinions as its good for mold breaking.
     
     Well, sure, if it's novel information. For example:
     
     > https://stallman.org/articles/children.html
     
     I don't have to click on it to know what he's going to say. I checked, and I didn't expect him to write "and also I'd be a shitty parent" but it turned out to, as expected, hit the "but there are too many people and there shouldn't be many people" checkbox and the "also I'd have to work too hard to feed a child" checkbox.
     
     > i think there is a certain extent of convenience that exists in the current state of things (smartphones,apps,etc), that is really hard to reach from the rms or free software realm of thinking.
     
     Do you think it's actually convenient? I have a phone because I have to have a phone; I don't think it has made my life any better, definitely not more convenient. It's a useless device that does its damnedest to interrupt me and I don't think I can remember how to play chess unless I'm sitting on a toilet.
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     akai (akai@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:16:18 JST akai

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     @p i might not agree with all of his points, but i like alternate opinions as its good for mold breaking. i'd rather be challenged than accepted, as challenges to my opinions helps me think and refine my thinking. i can't exactly get on board completely with rms or fsf because it is very difficult to manage life as it is without certain products or tools. i think to live a life like rms would be highly impossible for me to do, and if possible very limiting. i think there is a certain extent of convenience that exists in the current state of things (smartphones,apps,etc), that is really hard to reach from the rms or free software realm of thinking. it isn't something i'm happy about, and i try my best to adhere to principles of freedom, etc etc but i'm not perfect, and all i can do is lead by example even if all the code i share is just funny bots for irc or gikopoi or some little side project
     
     stuff like this is interesting but like wow im sure there are nerds out here that need this fanboy info: https://stallman.org/articles/childhood-sweetheart.html
     
     i like to use this when people talk about having kids:
     https://stallman.org/articles/children.html
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:34:15 JST pistolero

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     > I personally don't find any of what a phone does to be truly convenient.
     
     I will say being able to use GPS and map is great; I don't think I'd bother going past land-lines otherwise.
     
     > for the purpose of having an on the go GB/GBC/GBA/DS/3DS emulator
     
     Just buy one of the little special-purpose devices. There are some pretty good ones nowadays and the screens are usually designed to match the resolution instead of some battery-shitting 4k display.
     
     > and also e-reader
     
     So, I usually use my DevTerm for this. A uConsole would probably work better for games (the built-in joystick buttons have a better feel for games and the screen's aspect ratio is better for emulators) but your mileage may vary.
     
     > otherwise, they are just a portable computer with some convenience if you limit what it is used for.
     
     If I want that, I just get that.
     eks.jpeg
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     akai (akai@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:34:16 JST akai

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     @p i like how rms states "... I learned that portable phones make many people's lives oppressive, because they feel compelled to spend all day receiving and responding to text messages which interrupt everything else. Perhaps my decision to reject this convenience for its deep injustice has turned out best in terms of convenience as well." from
     https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html
     
     I personally don't find any of what a phone does to be truly convenient. (mostly just speaking about normies, that find it easier to just "google it" instead of go over to an alt. search engine, and this goes for lots of situations/choices) the situation I am in, I have to have a phone sadly. When my parole is up, I will be sure to have an Android that is not hooked up to any network, for the purpose of having an on the go GB/GBC/GBA/DS/3DS emulator and also e-reader (light novels, philosophy books, programming, norse mythology, you name it)...
     i find the inconvenient part of a smartphone is having apps with lots of notifications, this is ADHD inducing and multi-task culture which is very counter-productive in nature.
     
     smartphones are essentially fancy ankle monitors, in my experience, if used as connected to a network. otherwise, they are just a portable computer with some convenience if you limit what it is used for. (through will power and discipline, i limit my phone use every week, and i can imagine once i'm rid of texting and phone calls, i'll be using it only in public situations where i just want to read something while waiting or play a game while waiting, etc.)
     
     trying to take the good w/ the bad i guess
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     the_daikon_warfare (sicp@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:38:07 JST the_daikon_warfare

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     @akai @p
     Personally I hate phones, hate carrying around one, even if it's a flip phone. If I suddenly became paranoid I'd probably throw it in a river since it's also a constant surveillance tool. They also screw you up the ass with charges here; we pay more for telecom than any other country. I have a cool old rotary phone connected to a SIP trunk for cheap calls.
     BTW this is my favourite Stallman article: https://www.stallman.org/articles/texas.html
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:40:25 JST pistolero

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     @sicp @akai
     
     > I have a cool old rotary phone connected to a SIP trunk for cheap calls.
     
     Oh, that's really fuckin' cool.
     
     > "One of them said he was upset when you talked about nasal sex with plants." I had actually demonstrated this perverse act with the bouquet on the table, at dinner the night before I was sent home. The plants were dead, although well preserved, so I was performing rhinophytonecrophilia on them.
     
     WHY WOULD THIS BE CONSIDERED OFF-PUTTING
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:41:19 JST pistolero

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     • the_daikon_warfare
     @sicp @akai
     
     > I have a suspicion that I didn't put them any more at ease when I started the first lecture by leading everyone in a Bulgarian folk dance.
     
     Goddammit, I would punch out any motherfucker that tried to compel me to dance. Texans are too polite.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:58:48 JST pistolero

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     @akai Yeah. The thing that I mainly got the DevTerm for was to replace the latest broken Thinkpad: looked perfect, plus three-button mouse which is great for using acme. I can actually get work done on it, maybe the smallest device where that's possible, at least for me. Probably the best video games I have played are Plan 9, Unix, and the Internet, so if I have a device that does that, I'm happy. So once I have that, you know, the tendency is to cram it full of PDFs and I've played some games on it. I don't think I'd get it if I just wanted an e-reader or gaming device but it's fine for that stuff so I use it for that stuff. (Though mostly Nethack and Cave Story. I played some GBA games on the uConsole, it's a somewhat nicer device for games.)
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     akai (akai@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:58:49 JST akai

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     @p i have a steam deck for emulation and gaming, so i'd prefer to use that. However, DS/3ds are not really that great on a steam deck imo, so that is why i like the phone. Perhaps i would invest in another device for that purpose of ds/3ds, but for now what i got works.
     
     i am interested in getting an alternative for e-reading, and i probably will start using the steam deck even for that purpose, but i also like having a decent sized screen for jumping btwn 2 epubs (if i am referencing 2 at the same time). so again, its just what works for now. Problem i have though with e-reading is my head starts to hurt from reading intensely on a screen for more than 10 min so i have to take frequent breaks. so i was thinking of buying an actual e-reader to be better on the eyes and thus possibly my brain... i like your DevTerm a lot though. lots of things to consider for the future, and i'm open to suggestions
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     WalterKühl :bagpiper: (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 11:59:21 JST WalterKühl :bagpiper:

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     @p @akai How is the battery life at those devices?
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:03:21 JST pistolero

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     @waltercool @akai Depends on the CPU you get, the distro you use, the setup, the screen brightness, etc. Plus they use standard batteries (18650s) and manufacturers vary. On the RISC-V with 3500mAh cells, I can get 6-8 hours of coding before I have to get the power brick or a charger, on the A-06 I can get similar if I keep it clocked way down. (Fun bit: the batteries are done in parallel so you can actually hotswap them if you do them one at a time, and it's easy to bring some extra 18650s, they're small.)
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     akai (akai@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:07:15 JST akai

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     • pistolero
     @waltercool @p steam deck is decent, playing indie games i get like 5-6 hours. playing anything intense or emulating switch, maybe 2-3 hours. so i can imagine if i am just watching movies or reading epubs, it'd be awhile.
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     akai (akai@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:13:39 JST akai

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     • di0nysius the patomskyite
     @p yeah i am enjoying dead cells, but i think spamming #jp and demanding they buy me dead cells was better than actually playing dead cells even though i thoroughly enjoy all the DLCs (thanks @dsm) .... a good puzzle or programming is more lasting in entertainment than games for me. however, it is nice to have toys to tinker with, and steam deck does provide me with that fun at times.
     
     i have a thinkpad r52 that has supervisor password lock on BIOS, so i think when i get off my lazy ass and get to shorting the cmos battery or circuit, i'll make it into my plan9 box, which was kind of the idea after i made the space glenda gikopoi avatar. i'll definitely post pics of my progress with that,possibly this summer
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:14:01 JST pistolero

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     @akai @dsm Oh, yeah, they run Plan 9 pretty great.
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     GNU Tar (freetar@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:15:25 JST GNU Tar

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     • the_daikon_warfare
     @sicp @akai @p
     Just remove the power supply and the phone will cease.
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     akai (akai@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:18:27 JST akai

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     • di0nysius the patomskyite
     @p @dsm PLAN 9 PLAN 9 PLAN 9 I LOVE PLAN 9 IM OBSESSIN WITH PLAN 9 I <3 PLAN 9 GLENDA IF YOU SAY PLAN9 OR #gnot ON GIKOPOI YOU TURN INTO GLENDA PLAN9PLAN9PLAN9
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     the_daikon_warfare (sicp@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:27:44 JST the_daikon_warfare

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     • GNU Tar
     @freetar @akai @p That's not as dramatic, though. I should feel like I'm an elite hacker being tailed by the feds or something.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:28:25 JST pistolero

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     • GNU Tar
     @sicp @freetar @akai Apparently foil bags work fine as a Faraday cage for them.
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     the_daikon_warfare (sicp@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 12:36:58 JST the_daikon_warfare

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     • GNU Tar
     @p @freetar @akai It might have to be a bit thick to keep out modern frequencies, but I don't know the specifics. What I do know is that if you put a piece of tin foil on a cats head, it'll freak out.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 13:05:16 JST pistolero

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     @sicp @akai @freetar Allegedly, Doritos bags stopped 3G/4G. I don't think 5G is any better.
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     WalterKühl :bagpiper: (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 14:51:09 JST WalterKühl :bagpiper:

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     @p @akai That's cool!
     
     If you use DOS, you can always check the Evertop.
     
     https://github.com/ericjenott/Evertop
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 14:54:45 JST pistolero

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     @waltercool @akai
     
     > If you use DOS,
     
     I, uh...
     
     > https://github.com/ericjenott/Evertop
     
     That actually is kinda cool. This guy might have him beat on battery life, though: https://hackaday.io/project/184340-potatop/details
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:20:10 JST 翠星石

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     @p @akai >I will say being able to use GPS and map is great
     That is a worse experience if you use a demon rectangle.
     
     Maps are best saved for viewing offline and GPS does not require a mobile data connection (you just need a GPS receiver almost anywhere on earth).
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:24:21 JST pistolero

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     @Suiseiseki @akai
     
     > and GPS does not require a mobile data connection (you just need a GPS receiver almost anywhere on earth).
     
     I have one. A thing that fits in my pocket and shows me a map of wherever I am and puts a dot where I am, that's useful.
     
     I could ditch it if there were a reasonable program that could talk to OSM and the GPS receiver and didn't have a bunch of bullshit and actually compiled on my machine without Python wheels or whatever horseshit fluoride the CIA is cramming into packages that say "open sores" on their website but then they only provide wheels and they have several dozen dependencies and a bunch of those only provide wheels.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:27:23 JST pistolero

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     @Suiseiseki @akai I don't think this should be hard. Most GPS receivers just give you a stream of newline-terminated text. Figuring out where you are by reading that data and then fetching tiles from OSM can't be too hard.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:29:44 JST 翠星石

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     @p @akai KDE Marble?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:30:21 JST 翠星石

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     @p @akai Yes, there is an Emacs OSM implementation that fetches tiles from a provided location.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:36:02 JST pistolero

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     @Suiseiseki @akai
     
     > actually compiled on my machine
     > didn't have a bunch of bullshit
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:44:55 JST 翠星石

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     @p @akai Good to see your free software needs have been met.
     
     Feel free to come again.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 20:47:02 JST pistolero

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     @Suiseiseki @akai They haven't. You said "KDE" to me.
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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 19-May-2025 07:38:19 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @p @Suiseiseki @akai Kryptonite Desktop Environment

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 19-May-2025 07:43:07 JST pistolero

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     @bonifartius @Suiseiseki @akai I swear you could do a map in a single-threaded event-loop C program that reads from the GPS stream and updates the dot accordingly and another that fetches tiles and pipes shit to wish. I am not fucking with qt5, especially not on a portable device. It takes a lot of work to be more fucked than gtk but KDE has somehow pulled it off. (And while we're on the topic, they both *still* look like shit.)
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     YaboiSugoi :archlinux: :verified: (yaboisugoi@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 21-May-2025 09:27:53 JST YaboiSugoi :archlinux: :verified:

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     @p @bonifartius @Suiseiseki @akai i had a problem with kde plasma where it would occupy half my ram on startup for no apparent reason, and no matter how much ram was available.
     
     I ended up just switching to xfce and never looked back
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     • YaboiSugoi :archlinux: :verified:
     @yaboisugoi @Suiseiseki @akai @bonifartius Yeah, I don't even like to deal with gtk/qt stuff if I can *possibly* avoid it. (Fuck Mozilla.)
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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 21-May-2025 09:32:49 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @p @Suiseiseki @akai never used qt or gtk, all the examples i looked at seemed ridiculous for what they do - Tk is easy once one understands the placement algorithms and i do like the boxy grey look :) i'd like to try out one of the "immediate mode" toolkits of which i can't remember the name right now, but i rarely have to do gui stuff.

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 21-May-2025 09:39:06 JST pistolero

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     @bonifartius @Suiseiseki @akai
     
     > Tk is easy once one understands the placement algorithms and i do like the boxy grey look
     
     It feels like it's useful, not like it's trying to entertain me. I don't need jack shit to be animated in a UI, I don't need it to be pretty. Just fast, working, and reliable.
     
     That having been said, you actually can do colors and whatnot. I almost never bother to, but 90% of the "GUI programming" I do is "I want a little window that shows me this thing that is happening". On Plan 9, histogram(8) and statusmsg(8) solve 99% of of that anyway.
     
     > i'd like to try out one of the "immediate mode" toolkits of which i can't remember the name right now
     
     It's fashionable lately.
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     • YaboiSugoi :archlinux: :verified:

     @yaboisugoi @Suiseiseki @akai @p kde is either a great or a complete garbage experience.

     i just use a window manager like i did for about 20 years, does everything i want and doesn't get in the way. kde is nice for family who just want to do light office stuff, it usually works fine - better than windows and i can actually fix stuff.

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     • YaboiSugoi :archlinux: :verified:
     @bonifartius @yaboisugoi @Suiseiseki @akai Yeah, I'm using ratpoison everywhere except this system, where I use fvwm.