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   Wikipedia (wikipedia@wikis.world)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 03:03:09 JST Wikipedia

   • HyperSoop :spinny_cat_aroace: :spinny_fox_agender:
   • The 500 Hats of LambdaCalculus

   @soop @lambdacalculus the use of LLMs in generating article content has been opposed on many projects (notably the English Wikipedia) for quite some time, and I* don't foresee that changing any time soon.

   This blog post is pretty vague, and I* wish there was more clarity on the plans. People are already pushing back for clarity within the community.

   [*Sammy, one of the volunteers who runs this account]

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 03:03:07 JST Rich Felker

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     • Mark Eichin
     • HyperSoop :spinny_cat_aroace: :spinny_fox_agender:
     • The 500 Hats of LambdaCalculus

     @eichin @wikipedia @soop @lambdacalculus "AI" is not a "lost term like hacker" because (1) hacker isn't lost, and (2) "AI" never had a positive meaning. It was always scams. Going back to the 70s or earlier. This is like the 4th or 5th wave.

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     Mark Eichin (eichin@mastodon.mit.edu)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 03:03:08 JST Mark Eichin

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     • HyperSoop :spinny_cat_aroace: :spinny_fox_agender:
     • The 500 Hats of LambdaCalculus

     @wikipedia
     Much of that policy page would be less contentious (and more precise) if it said NLP instead of AI (it's another "lost term" like "hacker", after all.) Whether the focus that brings to the rest of it is what you're going for is another question...
     @soop @lambdacalculus

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 05:40:34 JST Rich Felker

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     • HyperSoop :spinny_cat_aroace: :spinny_fox_agender:
     • Sami Koskinen
     • The 500 Hats of LambdaCalculus

     @sampe @eichin @wikipedia @soop @lambdacalculus None of those were marketed as "AI" to begin with. They were real concrete problems with their own names. "AI" is always the name for when you want folks to believe a computer can do things it can't actually do.

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     Sami Koskinen (sampe@piipitin.fi)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 05:40:36 JST Sami Koskinen

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     • Rich Felker
     • Mark Eichin
     • HyperSoop :spinny_cat_aroace: :spinny_fox_agender:
     • The 500 Hats of LambdaCalculus

     @dalias @eichin @wikipedia @soop @lambdacalculus it’s not just scams. It’s just that established AI applications are now taken for granted. Shortest route for driving? Used to be an AI problem around 2000. Machine vision for robot vacuums etc? Definitely AI as of 2010.

     AI winters are real and scam artists gather around LLMs right now, but it’s not all crap. And there are other machine learning applications.