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my contribution to the right is just giving Europeans around me an out to be racist and support Remigration openly, while having me as a reference whenever they have to "defend themselves" to shitlibs.
like seriously, do people think that just because i am a second generation immigrant, and i share blood with a lot of these people, that means i am pro mass immigration?
when i see some immigrant out there with a similar background to me starting shit, i have to live with the fact that every action they do, is also projected onto me.
i could be the best model citizen there is, i could try to contribute and participate within swiss society as best as i could, but it's then nullified by the fact that ahmed decided to beat someone who he didn't like and then just gets away with it.
i WANT these people out of the country, i don't care if we "share origins", i do not want to be associated with these fucking clowns.
and thanks to them, now europeans are asking if they are the ones at fault for it?
did they mistreat them or something? so now they give them preferential treatment they absolutely do not deserve.
i could have less rights and get discriminated, but as long as i am held up to the same or higher level of accountability as a native i am happy with it, because guess what? i am a fucking adult, and if i fuck up, i should get consequences, the
do people think i am geniuenly happy with the fact that i have to share the same category of people as these fucking dregs of society, who don't want to do anything beyond the minimum? who would betray the people of the country they have been welcomed by in a heartbeat?
i am really really tired of trying to converse man, i try to talk to them telling them "we have to live up to high standards, are we fucking monkeys who can only control ourselves if we have Laws or consequences?"
guess what their answers are:
"i do what i want"
"i don't have to do this, so why should i?"
"if i get *deported*, then i just go somewhere else"
fucking parasites man, i want to be respected, and by respected i don't mean being given "more rights" (preferrential treatment), as in, if i fuck up, i get jail time, just as the swiss native would, if i am a minus to the country, i should get deported.
if (and slowly going to "when" tbh) i decided to support my local far-right group, it is because i love the europeans, and i want them to prosper, because they are good people, and that i don't want to have to live with the fact that everything i do is overshadowed with the shit my "fellows" do.
my own "blood" treated me with disrespect and everytime i try to speak up about how something is wrong or they shouldn't do it, or how backwards it is, i get laughed at.
europeans wouldn't believe the stuff that those people say in languages they don't understand, they don't respect Christians, nor the history, they just want gibs and ez money, parasites of society, i am sick of them, and i am sick to share a civil status with these people, they don't want to actually be apart of the country i am in.
don't misunderstand, the vast majority of MENA migrants are like this, i can't wait for mass deportations so i can actually live life without encountering these people.
and if i get deported too, let it be, either way i am fucking done with these scum shitting on the streets i take care to not litter in.
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my clarification of the seemingly contradictory statement of why someone with a migrant background would hate migrants.
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@Jens_Rasmussen I am one of the few who can say they've read it, and contrasted it with Huxley's Brave New World. I think we're closer to the latter.
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@Jens_Rasmussen The book was a warning of what the British Left was at risk of becoming. It instead became an instruction manual for the managerial classes.
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@thatbrickster @BowsacNoodle @themilkman Orwell, particularly so after his experiences in Barcelona, was an anti-authoritarian. The Nazis having been defeated in WW2, and thus no longer worth warning against, the book is clearly a warning of sorts regarding what would be the case if Soviet Union style socialism took over in the UK.
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>my contribution to the right is just giving Europeans around me an out to be racist and support Remigration openly, while having me as a reference whenever they have to "defend themselves" to shitlibs.
The Overton window has moved to the point where hiding behind people or excuses no longer works. For the older generations afraid of being called 'racist' they'll keep resorting to self-erasure in a vain attempt to prove why they aren't. For the younger generations they'll tank it and perhaps walk into it as they watch the accuser stumble on what to say next.
>like seriously, do people think that just because i am a second generation immigrant, and i share blood with a lot of these people, that means i am pro mass immigration?
That assumption is made because it's a lazy one. Outliers such as Alp Mehmet of Migration Watch or Maajid Nawaz of the now-shuttered Qulliam Foundation are what the right call 'based foreigners' speaking out against the third-world problems we are importing. This class of people contributing to the cause won't save us but are doing a nontrivial amount of legwork to help it move forward.
>i could be the best model citizen there is, i could try to contribute and participate within swiss society as best as i could, but it's then nullified by the fact that ahmed decided to beat someone who he didn't like and then just gets away with it.
It need not be said that not everyone who legally migrates is a problem, just that the overwhelming majority are. 95% of *legal* migrants arrive here with no skills or qualifications. Aside from those originating from China or India, every other non-European is a net tax beneficiary (i.e. tax drain on society). Naturally *illegal* migrants are a net negative both monetarily and not, because almost all of them are fighting age men. Personally only women and children should be admitted as 'asylum seekers' as they are truly vulnerable. The men only seek economic gain and have no plans to contribute to the societies who can afford to throw subsidies at them, not that we were asked to.
>and thanks to them, now europeans are asking if they are the ones at fault for it?
did they mistreat them or something? so now they give them preferential treatment they absolutely do not deserve.
I recommend Gad Saad's writings on Suicidal Empathy that explains this in better detail than I can muster.
>do people think i am geniuenly happy with the fact that i have to share the same category of people as these fucking dregs of society, who don't want to do anything beyond the minimum? who would betray the people of the country they have been welcomed by in a heartbeat?
Something I believe is that we end up with the lower castes of 'undesirables'. Whether people want to admit it or not, our 'liberal 'democracy'' is not a universal template used by every government internationally. 'Human rights' are also not universal as not everyone is a blank slate. People of different cultural proximities will believe in different degrees of morality, if any, and often they are incompatible with one another. This is why expecting people raised in cultures distant from our own to assimilate or integrate will never work.
>"i do what i want"
>"i don't have to do this, so why should i?"
>"if i get *deported*, then i just go somewhere else"
Might is the only thing these types of people respect. They can tolerate everything else if it means they are financially better off.
>if (and slowly going to "when" tbh) i decided to support my local far-right group, it is because i love the europeans, and i want them to prosper, because they are good people, and that i don't want to have to live with the fact that everything i do is overshadowed with the shit my "fellows" do.
There is no accepted definition of 'far-right'. Not that long ago the UK Govt's Home Office decided to mark books such as Fahrenheit 451 and 1984, without irony, as 'far-right' material. 90% of the people on Prevent's counter-terror watchlist are Islamists. We saw civil unrest in part because a site run by a Pakistani (in Pakistan) spread false info about the suspect at a time the media were claiming was 'Russian disinfo', while I did my own research and debunked it two or so weeks before they found out for real. Institutions who are supposed to look out for our best interests would rather gaslight us and think we're stupid than say anything that would unsettle race relations, something we've been beholden to since 1964.
At the end of the day I will treat you no differently as a person. I will not hide behind you or use you as a scapegoat for why I am of a particular political orientation. I appreciate you writing out your frustrations and thoughts, and wish you well on your transformation to the person you want to be for yourself and your children.
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@thatbrickster @themilkman @BowsacNoodle >1984 is considered far right
Actually ridiculous considering that Orwell was, as impossible and outlandish as this concept sounds, a radical social democrat.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @thatbrickster @BowsacNoodle @themilkman One thing is for sure: It wasn't economic reasons. Poor-as-fuck societies can be functional and stable.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @thatbrickster @BowsacNoodle @themilkman The post you are replying to does not load for me, so I can't see the rest of the conversation, but I always considered the political collapse of the Soviet Union to be a long term effect of the purges. The purges ended whatever public discourse existed, even between the various wings of the Communist party itself, and prevented any "healthy" power process from emerging.
It's not a coincidence that the whole thing came apart when the last generation of leaders who were actually born before the Bolshevik "revolution" had died off.
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@Ariovistus @thatbrickster @BowsacNoodle @themilkman The east bloc just didn't manage to capture the leftover aryan spirit as well as the west bloc did.
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@thatbrickster @BowsacNoodle @themilkman Very true. The Soviets lost the cold war, after all.
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@MK2boogaloo @themilkman @BowsacNoodle @thatbrickster You moved to America from Indonesia? Or am I getting things mixed up?
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@Jens_Rasmussen @BowsacNoodle @thatbrickster @themilkman to Japan, for several years.
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@themilkman @BowsacNoodle @Jens_Rasmussen @thatbrickster working overseas has made me hate my own countrymen more than I thought was possible, that's just how bad it is for me. As for the rest of your feeling, I guess I can sympathize with it, since people here are so retarded. I don't want to be associated with them, they deserve nothing less than a nuclear holocaust.
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@MK2boogaloo @Jens_Rasmussen @thatbrickster @themilkman I've never liked guests who show up and disrespect the place they're visiting.
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@MK2boogaloo @BowsacNoodle @thatbrickster @themilkman Are Japanese classes easy to come by in Indonesia?
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@Jens_Rasmussen @BowsacNoodle @thatbrickster @themilkman hmm it depends really, what I'm concerned about is how they behave themselves in a foreign land.
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@MK2boogaloo @BowsacNoodle @thatbrickster @themilkman Of course. I was just thinking about how japs are bad at English, and Indonesians as well for that matter, so an Indonesian going to Japan must have taken Japanese classes, surely?
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