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   Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 04:28:59 JST Paul Cantrell

   While people fuss and fight over ActivityPub and AT Proto and whatever, it seems like that actual federation in practice is going to come from Bridgy-like projects that connect disparate sites and incompatible protocols with a bunch of glue and duct tape. https://mastodon.social/@quillmatiq/114416450355174900

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 04:43:26 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Tom Walker

     @tomw
     Yup, this is life without a clear protocol winner

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     Tom Walker (tomw@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 04:43:27 JST Tom Walker

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     @inthehands Trouble is it's full of papercuts. I had it turned on but turned it off because it was just spewing misformatted rubbish into Bluesky with my name on it

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 05:54:05 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     @inthehands dual native protocol support is the long term optimal path

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 07:09:15 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Jenniferplusplus

     @jenniferplusplus
     Agreed! Provider burden instead of integration burden is what gave us the web (ie it’s much easier to write a web page than to write a browser).

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 08:23:39 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • jwz

     @jwz

     “Adversarial interoperability” is a very good phrase.

     Do note in the OP that I didn’t say it would be any •good•

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 08:23:40 JST jwz

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     @inthehands As someone who has spent a large portion of my life actually *implementing* this sort of adversarial interoperability with unwilling, billionaire-backed systems --

     No. No it won't.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 09:34:52 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Gabe Kangas

     @gabek
     I’m not sure it’s fun before that either tbh

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     Gabe Kangas (gabek@social.gabekangas.com)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 09:34:53 JST Gabe Kangas

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     @inthehands Glue and duct tape is fun until you're sick of putting the glue and duct tape back together.