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   Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 26-Apr-2025 20:17:34 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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   @mia @ShadowJonathan @steph I kind of wish EU would have done that instead of forcing a specific version of USB.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 26-Apr-2025 21:54:41 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @waldi @steph @mia @ShadowJonathan I know but it's really not the same kind of deal.
     Like unlike with a laptop where few adapters can be fine (though we've probably all seen Apple users getting frustrated by needing those), with a smartphone it's really annoying to carry with you.
     
     And I guess having to also carry a Y cable so you can charge + listen to music at the same time.
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     waldi (waldi@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 26-Apr-2025 21:54:42 JST waldi

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     @lanodan @steph @mia @ShadowJonathan You know that you usually can adopt the usb-c to 3,5mm just fine?

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     groff 🇺🇦 (geoffl@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 00:52:18 JST groff 🇺🇦

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     @waldi @lanodan @steph @mia @ShadowJonathan
     That really depends on the flavour of passive or active audio throughput and the phone manufacturer. I've got a blackview phone with passive audio output (DAC on phone) that works well with their own headphones but the passive adaptors I've tried failed (there's no agreed standard). If I use an active adaptor the signal to noise ratio at low volumes is terrible and the USB output gets shut off after 15 minutes bacause the phone thinks it's inactive.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 00:56:08 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @waldi @Doomed_Daniel @Nibor4000 @steph @mia @ShadowJonathan Oh wow that reminds me of how iPod shuffle and some other smol devices would have an audio jack that could also work as USB.
     (Or some smartphones where the headphone jack can also go in UART mode)
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     waldi (waldi@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 00:56:09 JST waldi

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     @Doomed_Daniel They do, or did in the past. See "Analog Audio Adapter Accessory" (Appendix A of the USB Type-C spec before revision 2.3). They connect the raw analog lines through D+ and D- (and some sensing stuff on CC, VConn or so).

     But it got removed, so on newer devices this might not longer work.

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     Daniel Gibson (doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 00:56:11 JST Daniel Gibson

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     @waldi @Nibor4000 @lanodan @steph @mia @ShadowJonathan
     There are no "simple" USB to headphone adapters.
     They all include a USB soundcard (yes, even the tiny ones)

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     waldi (waldi@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 00:56:12 JST waldi

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     @Nibor4000 That's an USB sound card, not the simple adapter we where talking about.

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     Nibor4000 🇬🇧 (nibor4000@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 00:56:13 JST Nibor4000 🇬🇧

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     @Doomed_Daniel @waldi @lanodan @steph @mia @ShadowJonathan

     ...unless you have these babies
     https://www.amazon.co.uk/BENFEI-Adapter-Charging-Headphone-Compatible/dp/B0D6W8JYWX
     (I have been unable to source them elsewhere, which does sadden me)

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     Daniel Gibson (doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 00:56:14 JST Daniel Gibson

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     @waldi @lanodan @steph @mia @ShadowJonathan
     but then you can't charge and use a headphone at the same time

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 01:27:55 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @waldi @steph @Doomed_Daniel @mia @Nibor4000 @ShadowJonathan Yeah, I'm just 90's brained where each ports are dedicated to one feature.
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     waldi (waldi@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 01:27:56 JST waldi

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     @lanodan It is quite common that you can switch die USB port of a phone into various modes. A CPU debugging interface might be available as well.

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