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   smokescreen (smokescreen@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 00:56:13 JST smokescreen

   • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
   @TrevorGoodchild i have some decisions to make. Are there any vacccines on the child schedule that are worth it IYO?
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     Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 00:56:11 JST Ruling Otter

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     • WilhelmIII

     @WilhelmIII @TrevorGoodchild @smokescreen Effortpoast incoming.

     I've always said there are conspiracy theorists who are true warriors and then there are conspiracy nuts. I long felt that 'antivaxxers' were the latter. But I've always been passively antivax. I.e.: For ~30 years I never sought them out. I just didn't see the need. The truly deadly pathogens don't spread fast enough before killing the host. The non-deadly ones? Well, I survived childhood. (Heck I had chicken pox while in a body cast. Picture that.)

     About 10 years ago old gf whom I connected with on Fecesbook came down with shingles and had a horrible experience. I think she still has the peripheral neuropathy that was so painful that she contemplated shaving her head. It was excruciating to just touch her hair. (Never followed up whether she did it, but every picture I ever saw of her afterwards, she was wearing a bandanna.) She began strongly encourage all her friends to get the shingles vax.

     So I researched it. And I came across some data (that I doubt, now, for reasons out of scope) that was allegedly true for all vaccines. The analysis tried to demonstrate that they are all followed by increased disease incidence for about 20 years. Then for the next 20 years, the incidence declines to the level it was 40 years ago. Only then do they decline. It just so happened that we were at the peak of that graph when I was considering it. So I declined.

     Now whether or not all is true, it contributed to me dodging a bullet. From what I understand even from the vax skeptics out there, the shingles vax happens to be literally the only one that's had relatively decent testing that survives scrutiny. Nevertheless, I'm glad I declined.

     Then came 2020. I bought the '15 days to flatten the curve' narrative. Until day 16. Then everything was bullshit in my mind. Including Operation Warp Speed, even before I ever heard of mRNA. 5-10 years is normal for vaccine approval. Most if not all models are shit in complex systems. There are far too many unknown unknowns to have any confidence in them. So you need real life trials. Which take time. And even if time travel ever happens (doubtful, IMO), compressing time is another matter. You cannot accelerate that, full stop.

     So I was a hard no from day one. Always had been, anyhow, but had no concern because I'd been a soft no for decades, so I was just going to continue as always had. Or so I thought. And then they fucked with me. Long story short is that I got my religious accommodation, but I still (am still) rip shit fucking pissed off. I didn't want special treatment. I wanted my no to be fuck no. I never expected an inquisition.

     Before the mandates, I started reading. And I never stopped. I started with Suzanne Humpries' Roman Bystranyk's Dissolving Illusions. The fraud was palpable. I don't recall whether or not the Flexner Report was covered in that, but that also clarified a lot for me. Most allopathic medicine is bullshit, IMO. But vaccines are a special kind of madness.

     I began to realize that I owed antivaxxers an huge apology. They are not the ones they base their beliefs on anecdotal non-scientific evidence. The vax maxxers are. They are not even scientist in the proper sense of the word. I have the 9 hour deposition of Sidney Plotkin by Aaron Siri in 2018 in a dispute between a divorcing wife and husband where the dad wanted to vax the kid and the mom did not. Consider this paraphrase: "There is no evidence one way or another that vaccines cause autism," (much less true even just 7 years later), "so therefore I feel confident in asserting that vaccines do not cause autism." That's not just not scientific, it's utter brainwashing.

     I'm attaching my 2nd favorite graph from Dissolving Illusions. It's the US death rate of measles. The UK one is slightly more stark. Pretty much every single vax (with the possible exception of polio, which is whole different, but no less worse drama). The authors, by the way, just put out quite a large tome with quotes from doctors very early on in vaccine history on the horrors they witnessed. This is not a new battle. Like today, doctors of the past experienced they're own version of canceling.

     So I went from passively antivax, to anti-mRNA vax, to full-on antivax, past, present, and future. Why future? These people can't be trusted. And I don't have much faith that the field can be reformed in any lasting way. Why? It took 40 years from the time most of the medical field knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that smoking caused lung disease (cancer is disputable, but there most definitely other lung diseases than can be attributed to it) to when Big Tobacco was smacked down. So where did those PR 'professionals' go? Big Food to sell us on the idea that sugar and seed oils were healthy. That same Tobacco Playbook was in use during this whole fake plandemic.

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     WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 00:56:12 JST WilhelmIII

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     Pinging @totalslothdeath to this post.

     When Trev starts to doubt the official vaccine narrative then that confirms Ruling Otter's stance on them.

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     Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 00:56:13 JST Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:

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     @smokescreen Gonna punt on this question until HHS does an official review under RFK (it's looking like it will happen)
     
     Sorry for dodging. I'm in Shadowman's position is that I was still pro-vaccine (not mRNA gene therapy, obviously) until recently. Now the more I learn the more my already sizeable disgust with established medicine grows
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:53 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Ruling Otter
     1.5 grams a day, nigger. Get in my level.
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     RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip (richardkuklinskisicyglare@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:54 JST RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip

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     I'm not a huge fan of caffeine anymore 😏 I only drink a cup or 2 of coffee in the morning upon awakening at an ungodly hour to clear the mental cobwebs. Anymore than that I get anxiety and feel like shit. Wired and tired at the same time. It doesn't hit like it used to when I was younger. Neither does booze for that matter
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     PodunkPotato (podunkpotato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:55 JST PodunkPotato

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     • Ruling Otter
     I was probably 14 or so. I took a bunch of caffeine pills to stay up and drink. Not good for the stomach. Doc asked if I was suicidal. I said no, I'm just retarded. Nurse jammed that suction tube into the back of my throat like 10 times before it bent. Shit hurt. She made her point. Never did that again.
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     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:55 JST Matty

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     • Ruling Otter
     Last time I took caffeine pills I was unable to breathe beyond very shallow breaths. Legitimately scary moment, thought I was gonna die. Will never do that again.
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     PodunkPotato (podunkpotato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:56 JST PodunkPotato

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     Last time I went to ER, I made sure to miss the bag of blood I was puking in to hit the floor and sat right next to another guy even with open seats. They saw me quick.
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     RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip (richardkuklinskisicyglare@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:56 JST RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip

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     I remember when I was like 12 I had terrible gastritis or something, I think it was due to stress, but my stomach had an ulcer or something and started puking up a bunch of brown curdled blood 😏 went to the emergency room over it. The doctor wanted to stick his gloved finger into my butthole for some reason, said he needed to check for e. Coli because it was going around back in the early 90s from fast food burgers having poop in it because they started hiring border jumper spics to work at the slaughter houses(owned and run by jews, Devon Stack did a stream on how one destroyed an all White town) and they'd often cut open and spill the contents of the gut bag all over the meat tainting it because they're unskilled low IQ shitholers. Anyways, I remember I had to lay on my side and he couldn't add any lube because he had to smear the glove on a microscope slide, and my mom and brother were there, I told them I didn't want them in the room, so they went out the door and were still there by the door. Fuckin doctor stuck his dry gloves finger in there and I was all "ow! OW! IT BURNS!" and I hear my brother bust out laughing 😆 I was so deathly ill and dehydrated for 2 weeks.
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     PodunkPotato (podunkpotato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:57 JST PodunkPotato

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     • Ruling Otter
     You want treatment? Use keywords, "painful" and "growing" That should do. We are back to magic words that they enter.
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     RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip (richardkuklinskisicyglare@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:57 JST RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip

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     When they ask "what's your pain on a scale of 1-10" I always say "it's a fifteeeeeeen uuuuggghhh!!! 🥵" And buckle over holding your stomach letting out a groan. You want the stuff that actually works don't ya 😏 the happy means it's working
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     PodunkPotato (podunkpotato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:58 JST PodunkPotato

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     • Ruling Otter
     Doctors are a glorified WebMD search now. It's only getting worse.
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     Diagnosis is a drop down menu based on what Medicare will pay, regardless of your insurance, who price off that.
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     @totalslothdeath @WilhelmIII @TrevorGoodchild @smokescreen >PR
     
     Actually the first thing that made me hesitant about vaccinations is how they were “sold” to people - and the clotshot was so egregious in that it became obvious to many more.
     
     Years ago I told a friend about my concerns, so she took her neonate to the pediatrician and asked some questions. What she was given was a series of pamphlets talking about how important it was to do it, but with absolutely no substance to them. It was all rhetoric, and that’s what concerned her. She declined to vaccinate her children further after that experience.
     
     As a follow up, the child got a rash at some point (can’t recall what, something common and benign) and the doctor went off on her that “since the child isn’t vaccinated I have no way of knowing what is causing the rash it could be any disease.” which is the most retardedly non-empirical statement I can imagine.
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     Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:07:59 JST Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:

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     @BarelyEagle @totalslothdeath @WilhelmIII @smokescreen Being able to construct a differential diagnosis of what a disease could be based on all datapoints currently available is literally the basic, fundamental job of the doctor. Otherwise you're just a glorified nurse/PA with a long white coat.
     
     Pathetic
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     I can't do coke. It gives me headaches. 😭
     
     I just stick with ephedrine. Only 90s kids will understand.
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     RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip (richardkuklinskisicyglare@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:15:09 JST RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip

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     Fuck that (((legal high))) shit 😏 give me cocaine instead, I wanna know where the bitches at
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     RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip (richardkuklinskisicyglare@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:16:59 JST RichardKuklinskisHeavyHeadTrip

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     Ephedrine is just the precursor for biker crank 😏
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:17:02 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Yes.
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     penguin (penguin@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:18:56 JST penguin

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     PUSSY
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:19:36 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     That's why you take it with caffeine, sir. Go big or go home.
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     PodunkPotato (podunkpotato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Apr-2025 11:19:37 JST PodunkPotato

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     Still safer than caffeine pills.