@WilhelmIII @TrevorGoodchild @smokescreen Effortpoast incoming.
I've always said there are conspiracy theorists who are true warriors and then there are conspiracy nuts. I long felt that 'antivaxxers' were the latter. But I've always been passively antivax. I.e.: For ~30 years I never sought them out. I just didn't see the need. The truly deadly pathogens don't spread fast enough before killing the host. The non-deadly ones? Well, I survived childhood. (Heck I had chicken pox while in a body cast. Picture that.)
About 10 years ago old gf whom I connected with on Fecesbook came down with shingles and had a horrible experience. I think she still has the peripheral neuropathy that was so painful that she contemplated shaving her head. It was excruciating to just touch her hair. (Never followed up whether she did it, but every picture I ever saw of her afterwards, she was wearing a bandanna.) She began strongly encourage all her friends to get the shingles vax.
So I researched it. And I came across some data (that I doubt, now, for reasons out of scope) that was allegedly true for all vaccines. The analysis tried to demonstrate that they are all followed by increased disease incidence for about 20 years. Then for the next 20 years, the incidence declines to the level it was 40 years ago. Only then do they decline. It just so happened that we were at the peak of that graph when I was considering it. So I declined.
Now whether or not all is true, it contributed to me dodging a bullet. From what I understand even from the vax skeptics out there, the shingles vax happens to be literally the only one that's had relatively decent testing that survives scrutiny. Nevertheless, I'm glad I declined.
Then came 2020. I bought the '15 days to flatten the curve' narrative. Until day 16. Then everything was bullshit in my mind. Including Operation Warp Speed, even before I ever heard of mRNA. 5-10 years is normal for vaccine approval. Most if not all models are shit in complex systems. There are far too many unknown unknowns to have any confidence in them. So you need real life trials. Which take time. And even if time travel ever happens (doubtful, IMO), compressing time is another matter. You cannot accelerate that, full stop.
So I was a hard no from day one. Always had been, anyhow, but had no concern because I'd been a soft no for decades, so I was just going to continue as always had. Or so I thought. And then they fucked with me. Long story short is that I got my religious accommodation, but I still (am still) rip shit fucking pissed off. I didn't want special treatment. I wanted my no to be fuck no. I never expected an inquisition.
Before the mandates, I started reading. And I never stopped. I started with Suzanne Humpries' Roman Bystranyk's Dissolving Illusions. The fraud was palpable. I don't recall whether or not the Flexner Report was covered in that, but that also clarified a lot for me. Most allopathic medicine is bullshit, IMO. But vaccines are a special kind of madness.
I began to realize that I owed antivaxxers an huge apology. They are not the ones they base their beliefs on anecdotal non-scientific evidence. The vax maxxers are. They are not even scientist in the proper sense of the word. I have the 9 hour deposition of Sidney Plotkin by Aaron Siri in 2018 in a dispute between a divorcing wife and husband where the dad wanted to vax the kid and the mom did not. Consider this paraphrase: "There is no evidence one way or another that vaccines cause autism," (much less true even just 7 years later), "so therefore I feel confident in asserting that vaccines do not cause autism." That's not just not scientific, it's utter brainwashing.
I'm attaching my 2nd favorite graph from Dissolving Illusions. It's the US death rate of measles. The UK one is slightly more stark. Pretty much every single vax (with the possible exception of polio, which is whole different, but no less worse drama). The authors, by the way, just put out quite a large tome with quotes from doctors very early on in vaccine history on the horrors they witnessed. This is not a new battle. Like today, doctors of the past experienced they're own version of canceling.
So I went from passively antivax, to anti-mRNA vax, to full-on antivax, past, present, and future. Why future? These people can't be trusted. And I don't have much faith that the field can be reformed in any lasting way. Why? It took 40 years from the time most of the medical field knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that smoking caused lung disease (cancer is disputable, but there most definitely other lung diseases than can be attributed to it) to when Big Tobacco was smacked down. So where did those PR 'professionals' go? Big Food to sell us on the idea that sugar and seed oils were healthy. That same Tobacco Playbook was in use during this whole fake plandemic.
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