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Actually a barcade opened up next door just this week, haven’t been there yet
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@hfaust I even have my FURBABIES by my side!
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@lain Don't make me post the copypasta
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@lain @hfaust I hope that's an exhaust on top and not an intake on that case
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@guizzy @lain @hfaust
radiator, so it must exhaust up top? :TexasDumb:
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@hfaust of course
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@lain Are you gonna SLAM that craft beer and pop open another one?
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@kaia @lain @hfaust Yeah. Toasty furbaby then
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@cjd @lain @hfaust I don't understand how that's possible. Why not air+water?
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I just threw away the last of my water cooling hardware. Ended up concluding that there's no usefulness for it, air is just better.
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Well I mean obviously water moves heat better than air, but the whole process is just such a pain it's not worth it.
1. You need to worry about microbes in the water
2. You need to add water from time to time if it leaks or evaporates off (I did every few months, no noticeable leaks but had to add anyway)
3. Every component needs to be specifically water cooled, or else it's air cooled, and every water block adds another little pain in the ass and additional expense to the system
4. Unless you're running your system under vacuum (no one does that) if it blows out, you're gonna wreck a bunch of hardware in a real hurry, so you need to care about your joints.
5. You still need to care about airflow because you're never going to be able to water cool *every* component.
6. You can buy absolutely enormous air cooling heatsinks off Aliexpress for like 30$
So unless you have some absurd space constraint, you're always going to save money and headache by using a bigger chassis and cooling exclusively with air.
Left is my old poweredge which *just* went to the dump, not because there was anything wrong, just because it's like 12 years old now and just not worth maintaining anymore.
Right is my current production machine, that pic is slightly out of date because now it has a (home made) fan shroud which forces air to travel through one CPU heatsink then the other, then out the back. All air that has been through a CPU heatsink goes out.
I beat the tar out of that machine and the fans stay quiet and temps stay under control.
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@cjd @lain @hfaust I used the self contained and sealed Corsair H-series years ago in an overclock build it worked pretty well. I wasn't doing anything super huge and beefy, but it was one of those "secret overclock beast" chips that Intel used to put out every generation or so along with one of the higher tier GPUs. Can't remember specifics, but it was over ten years ago before mining made everything unaffordable.
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@BowsacNoodle @cjd @lain @hfaust there's really no reason not to use sealed water these days with pump monitoring software as good as it's gotten. Air is more for laptops and office devices
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@Paultron @cjd @hfaust @lain Honestly I just did it because I was tired of how loud my fan was. It was on full force 90% of the time before that. Yuge improvement.
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@cjd @lain @hfaust Dude that's crazy prices. How does one acquire such a thing? When you say "refurbed" is that AKA "fell off a truck" ?
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Ahh, an AIO. Those are not bad, I actually have one under my desk in a research unit that is not running right now. I would call them a crutch to deal with small chassis.
The problem with AIOs is you have to pay for them, and in the end it's cheaper to just get a bigger chassis and run some monster heatsinks. (the unit under my desk was not paid for by me)
AFAIK miners all use air cooling, or else dump the whole machine in a tank of mineral oil.
Also note my thermal requirements might be different because I never overclock anything. My current machine is built from used Xeon parts that were "refurbed" in China. I'm looking for <100$ 18 core CPUs, 200$ motherboard, 500$ for 256G of ram, I'm not interested in messing around with clock speeds...