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   Cliff Secord (cliffsecord@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 08:00:00 JST Cliff Secord

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   Agreed. So much better.
   
   All of open source is better:
   Ubuntu
   SpyderIDE
   MatPlotLib
   LibreOffice
   FreeCAD
   OpenFOAM
   QCAD-CAM
   KiCAD
   ArduPilot
   XFLR-5
   ParaView
   Calculix
   PrePoMax
   MakerPlane
   Inkscape
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 07:59:59 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Typst
     Calcurse
     Neovim
     Ranger
     Fzf
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 08:03:55 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Also.... if you use ubuntu, you are gay.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 09:47:29 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Arch with i3wm. 😏
     
     I've tried running debian, which seems alright generally, but isn't bleeding edge enough. I found that I have to build most apps from code because the repository builds aren't current enough to incorporate current plugins, or to have the most current app features.
     
     The arch repository isn't always as current as the developer's source, but it's usually close enough.
     
     Manjaro with yay is another good option. Majaro has its own stable repository and Yay gives access to the arch repository, so you have two sources for most apps.
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     Cliff Secord (cliffsecord@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 09:47:30 JST Cliff Secord

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     I had no idea.
     
     What do you recommend that is better?
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 10:05:57 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     My problem with Ubuntu is not only the bleeding edge issue, but also that it sandboxes application via snap etc. When I have used it, I feel like I'm fighting the build. I prefer to control my own environment and having to deconstruct the build's is a pain.
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     Cliff Secord (cliffsecord@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 10:05:58 JST Cliff Secord

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     I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
     
     I've heard good things about both ArchLinux and Manjaro.
     
     FWIW, I only went Ubuntu from my initial forays with OpenFOAM. I didn't know any better at the time.
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     In my own use case, I'm almost always in shell, ranger,.or neovim. I have a series of scripts, etc that tie everything together.
     
     I just finished up a script that launches additional i3wm instances on tty2 through tty6 but optionally and after boot.
     
     Figuring out how to manipulate getty after boot and to prevent it from resetting the ttys was interesting. Getting all open instances to lock by running my lock script on any one was even more interesting.
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     @CliffSecord @Humpleupagus @hfaust puppylinux is rad. I have no idea if it works for your situation; I just mention it whenever people talk about trying different Linux distros. I chose it because it boots from a USB (or LiveCD if you’re cool like that), loads entirely in RAM, runs crazy fast, and leaves no trace if desired.

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     annoyed (reallyangry@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 11:49:25 JST annoyed

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     @KingOfWhiteAmerica @CliffSecord @Humpleupagus @hfaust i just use garuda its like nooblinux but arch flavored.
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     Cliff Secord (cliffsecord@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 11:49:40 JST Cliff Secord

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     I'm all for what works effectively.
     
     We do a lot of simulation work.
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     In arch, if you press ctrl+alt+ any of f2 through 6, you get a terminal. Tty1 is usually dmesg, and the gui is at tty7 (F7).
     
     You can log into 2 through 6 and get a shell.... then do what you want. 🤷♂️
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     @Humpleupagus @CliffSecord @KingOfWhiteAmerica @hfaust well that's neat, but i honestly have no idea what you said, i just learned how to ssh into my server sitting in my bedroom to update it and reboot. lol
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     @Humpleupagus @CliffSecord @KingOfWhiteAmerica @hfaust i learned how to get services to start on boot with systemd cuz it was pretty easy commands so that my server software starts at boot etc.
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     @Humpleupagus @CliffSecord @KingOfWhiteAmerica @hfaust i was reading about tty and why it's called that it stands for teletype which harkons back to the days when comptuers were big as rooms so you'd have a terminal in another room to log into the big room sized computers.
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     Yes. And basically, I'm using those additional ttys to run additional x sessions. I often work and do other shit at the same time, so I thought it would be nice to separate the two by using different sessions and switching between them, instead of shuffling workspaces in one instance.
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     I can also use different configurations, etc for those sessions and apps used in those sessions.
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     @CliffSecord @Humpleupagus @hfaust Hey hey, I’ve not run much in the way of simulation software at all; but I love the puppylinux forums because they’re pre-cellphone era and quite active:
     
     https://forum puppylinux com/viewforum.php?f=99
     
     Dots removed; pretty sure that’s the Engineering/Science/Simulation forum; I imagine *something* there would ring a bell. Might be worth a peek !
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     Cliff Secord (cliffsecord@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 13:51:23 JST Cliff Secord

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     Great point.
     
     I've actually noticed that about the Ubuntu environment. Granted, I'd still rate it better than Windows.
     
     There is a terribly-written aircraft analysis application out there called OpenVSP. Difficult to set up and execute simulations and the data it produces can be confusing and misleading, even for those of us who the application was intended for. Gives the whole FOSS world a bad rap. The catch? It is a product of NASA.
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     paper9741 (paper9741@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 13:51:23 JST paper9741

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     @CliffSecord @Humpleupagus @hfaust I was a longtime Ubuntu user who switched to Manjaro to be more bleeding edge. I did a substantial PC upgrade at the same time so it was a big improvement, but now I'm curious how it would feel like-for-like. I never used Snap, though.
     
     I do like the KDE Plasma desktop much more than the Gnome desktop that ships with Ubuntu.
     
     I can confirm FreeCAD/XFLR-5/OpenFOAM/Paraview all work just fine. 👍
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     You should try i3. You can install it on the back of kde. It'll load via sddm. While it takes a little getting used to, not having to use a mouse 90% of the time is great. There's a vim plugin for Firefox/Librewolf too.
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     It does take a bit of setup, but it's well documented. Plus, installing as an alternative DE allows for mistakes, since you could still login to a normal plasma session.
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     paper9741 (paper9741@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 30-Mar-2025 13:59:36 JST paper9741

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     @Humpleupagus @CliffSecord @hfaust I was looking at it and I don't know if I'm ready for that lol. I might give it a shot.
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