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    Laffy (gottalaff@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 01:23:26 JST Laffy Laffy

    I'm sorry WHAT?!

    "The #Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans

    U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

    In conversation about 2 months ago from mstdn.social permalink

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      U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
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      Maddad ☑️ (maddad@mastodon.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 02:18:12 JST Maddad ☑️ Maddad ☑️
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      @GottaLaff

      Wow, not only that govt officials are using signal to discuss top secret war plans, I also see that they are concerned about the cost and they insinuate Europe should pay too.

      US air raids have killed at least 79 people and injured more than 100 in Yemen since last Thursday, according to the Houthis.
      Probably a lot of civilians here.

      Reference..
      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/24/us-fires-on-sanaa-as-campaign-against-yemens-houthis-continues

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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        US fires on Sanaa as campaign against Yemen’s Houthis continues
        Sanaa residents describe the strike on a western suburb of the Yemeni capital as ‘very violent’.
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      Laffy (gottalaff@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 07:05:07 JST Laffy Laffy
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      2/ Via Brad Moss:

      So to be clear:

      1) these folks weren’t using the highly secure networks we pay billions to maintain

      2) we have no indication if they’re keeping copies of these chats for Federal Records Act compliance

      3) a lot of this sounds like classified info

      4) ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME

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      Laffy (gottalaff@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 07:05:17 JST Laffy Laffy
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      3/ Via Jamelle Bouie:

      my takeaway from reading this is that i have to assume that every half-competent intelligence agency in the world has an almost real-time glimpse into what the white house and the pentagon are doing

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      Laffy (gottalaff@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 07:05:23 JST Laffy Laffy
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      4/ Sen. Chris Coons: "Every single one of the government officials on this text chain have now committed a crime – even if accidentally."

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Laffy (gottalaff@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 07:05:45 JST Laffy Laffy
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      5/ 🤔❓

      Via Emptywheel:

      Some questions that Mike Waltz and the others must answer:
      1) How did he preserve the thread and others for PRA
      2) What phones were everyone using
      3) What kind of security do those phones have
      4) WHERE were they using those phones
      5) What else is on the phones
      6) Why was Joe Kent included

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Steve's Place (steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 07:12:24 JST Steve's Place Steve's Place
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      @GottaLaff She may not always vote the way everyone wishes she would, but having Marie Perez in that purple-red district is so much better for this country than if Joe Kent had won that seat that I grasp for adjectives to describe how much better off we all are.

      Of all the people to include in the wide-open and illegal seditious operation, that hateful jerk is there. Of course he is.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Steve's Place (steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 09:25:34 JST Steve's Place Steve's Place
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      • Matt Blaze
      • Carolyn

      @mattblaze @CStamp @GottaLaff Let's assume he was deliberately included. They chose a "lib" media. They kept POTUS out of the loop. It's possible that they recognize that dear leader is getting a lot of negative press outside of the Fox/Newsmax bubble, and so they wanted to disseminate a message of manly competency to the "liberal" media.

      They assembled the Mission Incompetent team and ignored the reporter.

      Also, adding Fox or Newsmax would probably have resulted in phone calls and confusion, disrupting the meeting and message. The actual reporter kept quiet and paid attention.

      I can't imagine not noticing. If it's the chairman's chat, he used phone numbers he had. It just seems to me, at this point, that they wanted this to happen.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Matt Blaze (mattblaze@federate.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 09:25:35 JST Matt Blaze Matt Blaze
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      • Carolyn

      @CStamp @GottaLaff Yes, as I said, they should have known that Signal is not authorized for classified government communications. That’s was a mistake they should have known not to make.

      But accidentally adding a contact to a chat group and no one noticing? Signal is practically DESIGNED for that (and classified systems very much aren’t).

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 09:25:36 JST Carolyn Carolyn
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      • Matt Blaze

      @mattblaze @GottaLaff If these folk were all "qualified" to be working at this level, they should've all understood issues of security. I've been in positions in the past in which I've had to point out protocol to others, including bosses, and I wasn't involved in national security. These folk all should've known that Signal wasn't a state secure messaging app. They might as well have posted on TikTok. So I'm not inclined to cut them slack.

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      Matt Blaze (mattblaze@federate.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 09:25:37 JST Matt Blaze Matt Blaze
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      • Carolyn

      @CStamp @GottaLaff I don't think that's right. Given the tools and platforms and interfaces involved - Signal on a regular device connected to the public Internet - it's almost guaranteed that anyone will eventually make this sort of mistake.

      The problem here wasn't user error, it was the incredibly boneheaded, likely illegal, decision to use these platforms for sensitive national security discussions in the first place.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 09:25:38 JST Carolyn Carolyn
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      @GottaLaff "accidentally". If people in these roles are capable of this kind of accident, they are too incompetent to be in those roles.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 09:43:48 JST Carolyn Carolyn
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      • Matt Blaze
      • Steve's Place

      @steter @mattblaze @GottaLaff As Matt mentions, it would be very easy to mess this up. These are not the sharpest crayons in the box, just a bunch of mediocre-at-best men playing dress-up and feeling self-important, completely over their heads.

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink
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      Steve's Place (steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 09:43:48 JST Steve's Place Steve's Place
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      • Matt Blaze
      • Carolyn

      @CStamp @mattblaze @GottaLaff Certainly the most likely possibility. Even if they meant to do this, it's incompetence on display to the world. Who knows what the truth is in the Liar's Club? 🤷♂️

      In conversation about 2 months ago permalink

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