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    Stefano Maffulli (ed@social.opensource.org)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:22:27 JST Stefano Maffulli Stefano Maffulli
    • Kevin P. Fleming
    • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

    @kevin Two people decided not to agree to the board code of conduct, they excluded themselves, a third missed the deadline by hours. You be the judge of their behavior.

    And yes, there were bumps. That's why `The board has directed the Board Development committee to run a retrospective by April 19, 2025 and bring to the board any recommendations for the future.`

    @jwildeboer

    In conversation about 7 months ago from social.opensource.org permalink
    • Alfred M. Szmidt repeated this.
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      pchestek (pchestek@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:22:25 JST pchestek pchestek
      in reply to
      • Kevin P. Fleming
      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:
      • Richard Fontana

      @richardfontana This is on you. You knew you were not willing to meet the eligibility requirements but did not withdraw as a candidate before the elections opened. OSI didn't know and didn't anticipate that someone would do that; it had never happened that a candidate ran but then refused to meet the requirements. OSI then had to ensure that anyone who might be seated was willing to serve. Lesson learned; in the future the docs will be signed before someone can run @ed @kevin @jwildeboer

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
      Alfred M. Szmidt repeated this.
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      mjw (mjw@mastodon.nl)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:22:25 JST mjw mjw
      in reply to
      • Kevin P. Fleming
      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:
      • pchestek
      • Richard Fontana
      • Bradley M. Kuhn

      Isn't that a little backwards @pchestek ? @richardfontana and @bkuhn were very open and public they ran on a platform to modernize the board agreement and that they believed OSI directors should be allowed to use FOSS for Board activities. Then when the vote is over and they do exactly as promised they get excluded for that? @kevin @jwildeboer

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Richard Fontana (richardfontana@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:22:26 JST Richard Fontana Richard Fontana
      in reply to
      • Kevin P. Fleming
      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

      @ed @kevin @jwildeboer You say we excluded ourselves, but if so the exclusion took place *after* the vote and you are choosing not to release the full election results

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Aaron Wolf (wolftune@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:22:58 JST Aaron Wolf Aaron Wolf
      in reply to
      • Kevin P. Fleming
      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:
      • pchestek
      • Richard Fontana

      @pchestek

      This sort of comment is inappropriate for a respectable democratic process. If a candidate gets all the way to being listed on the ballots, voting takes place, and then they are disqualified for some reason, the only way to go forward with integrity includes still releasing the vote totals.

      This is not merely about candidates. The last minute removals *and* not releasing the vote totals is disrespectful disenfranchising of the VOTERS.

      @richardfontana @ed @kevin @jwildeboer

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Josh Triplett (josh@social.joshtriplett.org)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:23:04 JST Josh Triplett Josh Triplett
      in reply to
      • Kevin P. Fleming
      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:
      • pchestek
      • Richard Fontana
      This is on the board, for making up new requirements on the fly during an election process. Tally the results, announce the winners publicly, *then* by all means enforce requirements the now-elected board members must reach until they duly change those requirements. This holds doubly true when there is *every reason* to believe that the rule changes specifically targeted candidates the existing board didn't like; it doesn't *matter* if that was the real reason or not, it's the default and reasonable assumption anyone should make when the process of an election is changed on the fly in ways that *just so happen* to affect specific candidates. The process itself is now rightfully suspect, when it had no need to be.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Richard Fontana (richardfontana@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:26:45 JST Richard Fontana Richard Fontana
      in reply to
      • Kevin P. Fleming
      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:
      • pchestek

      @pchestek @ed @kevin @jwildeboer No, when the voting started I was pretty sure I was going to ultimately sign the existing board agreement if I won the STV election and was offered a seat by the OSI. I only decided not to sign the existing board agreement (and offer an addendum) *after* the OSI suddenly required all candidates to sign the agreement *after* everyone had voted

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Richard Fontana (richardfontana@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:27:13 JST Richard Fontana Richard Fontana
      in reply to
      • Kevin P. Fleming
      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:
      • Bradley M. Kuhn

      @ed @kevin @jwildeboer There was no board "code of conduct" at issue. There was a board member agreement that (unexpectedly) all candidates were expected to sign after voting already completed, which agreement was one target of the reform platform advanced by me and @bkuhn

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 04:36:08 JST Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn
      in reply to
      • Richard Fontana

      I wish OSI's @ed would stop lying about the facts:

      @richardfontana & I published signed docs showing we agreed to #OpenSource Initiative's Codes of Conduct…
      https://ebb.org/docs/Kuhn-signed-board-agreement-OSI.pdf
      …Maffulli purposely conflates entire Board Agreement with Codes of Conduct — so his upthread statement is a lie.

      @richardfontana & I ran on a platform (in part) to reform just 19 words in the canonical Board Agreement…
      https://codeberg.org/OSI-Reform-Platform/platform#item-3-remove-code-of-silence-from-board-member-agreement

      We agreed to & abided by all 3 of #OSI''s Codes of Conduct.

      #FOSS #FLOSS

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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        platform
        from OSI-Reform-Platform
        Shared Platform for OSI Reform, Board Elections, 2025
      Alfred M. Szmidt repeated this.
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      Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 05:36:12 JST Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn
      in reply to
      • Berkubernetus
      • Open Source Initiative :osi:
      • Ruth Suehle
      • pchestek
      • McCoy Smith
      • Richard Fontana
      • hackygolucky

      Accusing someone rejecting a Code of Conduct is sometimes career-ending for the accused. One should only make such accusations w/ great care & certainty.

      I'm terrified now: #OpenSource Initiative's @ed (Executive Director), Stefano Maffulli, so-accused me & @richardfontana earlier today. This accusation is false.

      I request a public apology from Stefano personally & @osi organizationally.

      (Upthread clarifies facts Maffulli twisted.)

      Cc: @pchestek @hackygolucky @fuzzychef
      @mccoysmith
      @suehle

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 05:42:16 JST Alfred M. Szmidt Alfred M. Szmidt
      in reply to
      • Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
      • Richard Fontana
      • Bradley M. Kuhn

      @onepict @ed Chad Whitacre's "had to deal with such adversarial trolls [referring directly to @bkuhn and @richardfontana) in this election" comment adds to it ... https://discuss.opensource.org/t/announcing-the-new-directors-of-osi-board/940/3

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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        Announcing the new directors of OSI board
        I think you may have missed this in the post (or maybe OSI added it after the fact?): Three candidates have been excluded from the final tally: Two were ineligible as they did not sign the current board agreement; one returned the signed agreement after the deadline passed. It’s unfortunate that OSI had to deal with such adversarial trolls in this election—and OSI didn’t make it easier on themselves with mistakes like misstating the number of seats. I would’ve liked to have seen more proac...
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      Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Mar-2025 05:42:17 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
      in reply to
      • Richard Fontana
      • Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn @ed @richardfontana

      That wording struck me as well. It appalled me reading that accusation. Especially when it's posted from an organisational account. It brings the OSIs reputation into further disrepute.

      It felt like a deliberate attempt to besmirch candidates.

      Not something you want from an organisation that is the custodian of the Open Source Definition, who's reason d'être is to say what is an open source license and isn't.

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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      Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 23:56:36 JST Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn
      in reply to
      • Open Source Initiative :osi:

      Thanks for eventually correcting the misstatements. The public apology I asked for, though – 42 days ago – was an apology that @osi had *made* the statements, which you agree were incorrect.

      After weeks of private negotiations where you made it clear an actual apology for the statements themselves was off the table, & today's new mistake, it seems you still aren't offering that apology?

      No matter – all can be forgiven if you just do what so many people asked you to do:
      https://codeberg.org/OSI-Concerns/election-results-2025

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: codeberg.org
        election-results-2025
        from OSI-Concerns
        Petition to Open Source Initiative to publish 2025 Board election results. Sign using pull request (see below).
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      Open Source Initiative :osi: (osi@social.opensource.org)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 23:56:38 JST Open Source Initiative :osi: Open Source Initiative :osi:
      in reply to
      • Richard Fontana
      • Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn @richardfontana We apologize for posting a different text on the blog than the one agreed upon. The mistake was done in earnest by an employee and was corrected as soon as we realized the error.

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
      Alfred M. Szmidt repeated this.
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      Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-May-2025 23:56:39 JST Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn
      in reply to
      • Richard Fontana

      I appreciate @ed deleted post falsely claiming @richardfontana & I “refused to sign OSI's Code of Conduct” & that #OpenSource Initiative posted our privately negotiated correction for similar misstatements…
      https://opensource.org/blog/announcing-the-new-directors-of-osi-board#:~:text=agreed%20to%20be%20held%20to%20the%20OSI%20Code%20of%20Conduct
      … 'tho my gratitude is abated b/c despite weeks of bilateral negotiations by email, OSI tried to unilaterally change the agreed statement (screenshot).
      https://floss.social/@bkuhn/114438544297568433 has more.

      NB: the Candidate Agreement didn't exist until last week (a month after election).

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink

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        Announcing the new directors of OSI board
        from OSI
        The Open Source Initiative (OSI) board of directors validated the results of the polls, confirmed Carlo Piana as director and welcomed Ruth Suele, recommended by Affiliates, and McCoy Smith recommended by Individual supporters, as new directors.
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        Bradley M. Kuhn (@bkuhn@floss.social)
        from Bradley M. Kuhn
        Thanks for eventually correcting the misstatements. The public apology I asked for, though – 42 days ago – was an apology that @osi@opensource.org had *made* the statements, which you agree were incorrect. After weeks of private negotiations where you made it clear an actual apology for the statements themselves was off the table, & today's new mistake, it seems you still aren't offering that apology? No matter – all can be forgiven if you just do what so many people asked you to do: https://codeberg.org/OSI-Concerns/election-results-2025
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      Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-May-2025 04:19:50 JST Alfred M. Szmidt Alfred M. Szmidt
      in reply to
      • Open Source Initiative :osi:
      • Richard Fontana
      • Bradley M. Kuhn

      @osi Great step in the right direction! But when will you post the full election results -- election results that we all know you do not have to care about? https://codeberg.org/OSI-Concerns/election-results-2025

      @bkuhn @richardfontana

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink

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