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It's almost like the culture, and any wars happening within it, suddenly matters when you put down the controller and leave your mommy's basement and become part of it yourself!
- Hoss Delgado repeated this.
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@cowanon
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Realizing the far-reaching systemic impact of "social issues" is why I abandoned Libertarianism. Sorry, none of this shit exists in a vacuum. Some people should be persecuted by the state for degeneracy.
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My problem with authoritarianism is, the people doing the authoritarianing... are people, too. What's stopping somebody from the "most people literally cannot be trusted to rule themselves" class from ruling the rest of us? Other people? Who are statistically also from the "most people literally cannot be trusted to rule themselves" class?
This situation is completely circular: "People can't be trusted. So put people in charge... people who can't be trusted."
"Well we can't NOT have a government, we'll be ruled by warlords -- who might tax us 40% of our income, trans our kids, target the majority race for extermination while convincing them for generations that fighting back is racist..."
Seems like civilization itself is a no-win scenario. Seems like the agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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@Hoss @cowanon @deprecated_ii Yes, and the slippery slope is all too real with this shit. You allow one bit of degen shit it just leads to more problems down the line. It's why the only answer is authoritarianism because most people literally cannot be trusted to rule themselves. The trick, however, is knowing when to pull the reigns. Some freedom is useful for creativity, invention, and the like.
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Same. I also realized that individualism/libertarianism, is what leads to a selfish, decaying, immoral society. I am against the states corrupt use of the drug war. But I used to agree with Ron Paul and think, sure, legalize all drugs. Now I know that the laws should protect the weakest among us who are incapable of self control.