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   AlexanderVI (alexandervi@stranger.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 09:27:39 JST AlexanderVI

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   @chu they've normalized kids getting shot to death in math class, there's no limit

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 09:27:38 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @AlexanderVI Your chance of getting struck by lightening in your life is x2 higher than your chance of dieing in a school shooting in your lifetime. No one normalized kids getting shot, it is such a rare event it has never been a "nornal" thing, tragic yes, but exceedingly rare with literally every other threat being bigger than it.

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     Impish4249 (impish4249@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 11:50:33 JST Impish4249

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     @freemo @AlexanderVI

     And yet we all know not to stand under a tree in a thunderstorm.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 11:50:33 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @Impish4249

     Absolutely, just as all kids should be taught proper gun handling and safety.

     But in both cases neither child or parent should live in fear of lightening or school shootings as both are exceedingly rare.

     @AlexanderVI

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:27:41 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @Nicovel0 @AlexanderVI

     When did I say anything about the mortality with regards to lightening. Read what I said before "calling bullshit". I compared being **struck** by lightening (since it's a well known extremely rare event). Said nothing about being killed by it

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     Nicovel0 🍉 (nicovel0@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:27:42 JST Nicovel0 🍉

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     @freemo @AlexanderVI I call bullshit on that, the lightning mortality rate is calculated on the whole population, whereas you should take the population in schools (students and teachers/staff) to calculate it. Let’s say 10% of the USA pop is in school on average to make the maths easy: that would give a person in school 10x the chance of being shot vs being hit by lightning. And as others have noted, it easily preventable, as every other country on the planet demonstrates.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:29:32 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @Nicovel0 @AlexanderVI

     And yes school shootings are absolutely preventable I agree. By having reasonable access to mental health it can be easily avoided and we absolutely should. I never said it shouldn't be avoided only that focusing on it as a point of fear, given its extreme rarity is silly

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:30:54 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

     I didn't make anything happen, reality did that, I'm just pointing it out. And no, it isn't almost as common as being struck by lightening, not even close, lightening is 2x MORE common.

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     j_bertolotti (j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:30:55 JST j_bertolotti

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     @freemo
     Are you listening to yourself? You made "kid getting shot in class" (something that in most places is so rare to happen less than once in a decade) almost as common as being struck by lighting (which is not as rare of an event) and you sound creepily proud of it. 🤮

     @AlexanderVI

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:32:52 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @pgcd @Impish4249 @AlexanderVI

     All of those examples are preventable, and when did I say they weren't or shouldn't be prevented. In fact it's so easy to prevent by simply having good access to mental health it is crazy we haven't bothered to prevent it and should.

     What I pointed out is that if it is something you live in fear of, like being struck by lightening, then that is simply an irrational fear due to its extreme rarity.

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     pgcd (pgcd@mastodon.online)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:32:53 JST pgcd

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     • Impish4249

     @freemo @Impish4249 @AlexanderVI do you know the meaning of "preventable"?
     Ligthning isn't.
     School shootings are.
     Measles is.

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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:33:57 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @freemo @AlexanderVI Wow dr free getting based?
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:28:46 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @Nicovel0 @AlexanderVI

     Huh? Who said anything like that? If your gonna try to be toxic at least try and be relevant to the convo, it works better.

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     Nicovel0 🍉 (nicovel0@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:28:47 JST Nicovel0 🍉

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     @freemo @AlexanderVI I too am extremely cool with being hit by lightning

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:45:28 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @priryo

     I've lived my whole life in the USA and never once been in or around a shooting, let alone a mass shooting Only time I ever experienced a mass shooting was in the Netherlands.

     But yea, I totally agree, they are absolutely preventable, exceedingly rare, more rare than lightening strikes but preventable. I never said anything to suggest they are. IF the USA had even a fraction of the mental health access and education most of Europe has shootings would be nearly non existent. By all means we should get those things and end shootings.

     That said, the point still stands, if you are living in fear of shootings when they are half as common as being struck by lightening, then your fear is directed in the wrong places.

     @j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

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     priryo@linernotes.club's status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:45:29 JST priryo

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     @freemo
     True. It is a simple fact of reality that school shootings are as inevitable and inescapable as lightning strikes. And that's why they happen in the USA with much greater frequency than anywhere else in the world. They're like tornadoes, or Taco Bellses.
     @j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 22:08:06 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @priryo

     Also to be clear neither lightening nor school shootings are unpreventable. Lightening can be prevented with lightening rods. Since lightening is x2 more common we should be investing in more lightening rods before spending money or more rare events, based on that logic. Personally I'm all for addressing the mental health issue as it will fix more problems than **just** school shootings.

     @j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 23:09:44 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @kevin

     Agreed in an ideal world we would address lightening strikes (the bigger risk) first by investing in more lightening rods, then once that problem is under control we should work on reducing the even less common school shootings that occur....

     Or we should just fix the very **common** real underlying issue, the lack of access to mental health and education, that way we can fix not just the problem with shootings, but the much more common and overall problem of violence and lunacy among the populace.

     @priryo @j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

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     Kevin (kevin@dice.camp)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 23:09:45 JST Kevin

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     @freemo @priryo @j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI They should be even more rare instead of us becoming desensitized to it. What a fucked up world.