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   @Popehat @drahardja

   #USpol #FreeSpeech #Legal #FediLaw

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   for that matter.

   It should be seen somewhat like a national-security threat.

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     @drahardja Well, the good news is you’ve reached common ground with MAGA people. They, too, think that society should be able to suppress dangerous ideas and the people who promote them.

     People like you.

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     I beg to disagree.

     As I have argued earlier, #1A is far too liberal in the #US.

     A person or institution fomenting unconstitutional opinions aimed at undermining basic tenets of #democracy , such as voter-surpression bills should be put on a watch list of #HomelandSecurity. If there is enough evidence, indicted, and if found guilty prohibited/punished. One if the lesson learned from the #WeimarRepublic's shortcomings.

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     The same holds true regarding outright lies about your political oponents. #slander and #libel are not just a private-citizen issue, in particular during elections. Not only the target and his/her family suffer harm. #democracy itself suffers great damage if a qualified candidate isn't elected *solely* due to a mendacious #defamation campaign *or* by lying in ones #CV, for that matter.

     It should be seen somewhat like a national-security threat.

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     • Ken White

     @Popehat I’m probably mangling my arguments because I’m entirely out of my league when talking about law.

     From a societal point of view though, I think giving groups the ability to exclude people who promote views that are harmful to vulnerable people within that group is something worth protecting. MAGA’s association with intolerance, authoritarianism, and bigotry is pretty clear in my eyes.