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    Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:16:22 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
    Lennart Poettering was Donald Trump. Something in Linux needed to be done and people developing Linux decided that anything was better than nothing and chose the super opinionated guy.
    In conversation about 5 months ago from shitposter.world permalink
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:16:20 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @Suiseiseki there are probably dozens of linux-only things it does.
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:16:22 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @sun systemd is not something that is developed "in Linux" (Linux developers have rejected patches that do things like add dbus to Linux for example) - systemd is developed on GNU, although it uses certain Linux-only features like cgroups, meaning it only runs on GNU/Linux.
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:17:57 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @sun Yes - although listing them all out rather than just naming one example would be a waste of time.
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:18:51 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @Suiseiseki it's linux only and poettering has said so.
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:20:09 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @sun Ah yes - of course he said it's "Linux only", rather than state the truth that it's GNU/Linux only.
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:20:17 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      @Suiseiseki he was talking about linux kernel specifically
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:27:37 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @sun Linux is only a kernel, so why would you repeat yourself by writing; kernel kernel and imply that Linux is more than a kernel?

      systemd doesn't need just Linux to work - it needs GNU gettext, GNU coreutils and GNU readline, GNUperf and much more GNU (some GNU is optional, like libgcrypt and libidn2 but you lose functionality without it).
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:29:51 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @goo @sun BusyBox is an inferior clone of GNU under a GNU license that cannot be compiled without GNU software.

      systemd has harddeps on gettext, coreutils and gperf and more, thus you have installed GNU without realizing it to make GNU/BusyBox/systemd/Linux or systemd/Linux.
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Ayam Geprek (goo@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:29:52 JST Ayam Geprek Ayam Geprek
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      @Suiseiseki @sun i got it to work on my busybox/linux machine (gnu free)
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:30:23 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      • of nothing
      @apropos idk bernie sanders or smt
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      of nothing (apropos@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:30:24 JST of nothing of nothing
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      @sun what's Theo DeRaadt then? Mecha-Trump?
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:31:15 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      • Ayam Geprek
      @Suiseiseki @goo it uses gnu but only targets linux. I can install gnu utils on an IBM AIX box but it won't run SystemD
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:41:30 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      • Ayam Geprek
      @sun @goo It targets GNU and Linux.

      GNU is not merely a set of utils, although there are some util packages.

      I believe you can install GNU/Linux and systemd on a computer that previously ran IBM AIX.
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:44:32 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      • Ayam Geprek
      @Suiseiseki @goo I guess I would argue that there really is no GNU "OS" without a GNU kernel. HURD is still in its infancy
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:47:40 JST H. Faust H. Faust
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      • Ayam Geprek
      @sun @Suiseiseki @goo Just use an X60 https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2024/hurd-on-thinkpad/
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink

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        Guix/Hurd on a Thinkpad X60 — 2024 — Blog — GNU Guix
        Blog posts about GNU Guix.
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 01:49:21 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @sun @goo GNU has multiple kernels and multiple OS's.

      Hurd is not an infant, although more features would be convenient.

      There's the church of Emacs OS, the GNU GRUB OS, GNU Hurd, GNU Linux-libre and a number of other kernels that I don't remember the GNU package name of at the moment.

      An operating system is a system of software that allows you to operate a computer and GNU indeed provides that; https://www.gnu.org/software/

      Meanwhile if you tried to install just Linux, it'll just admit that it is not an OS and shut down; https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/init/main.c#n1513
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink

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        Software - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
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        main.c « init - kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 02:01:53 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @adiz @goo @sun How is it wild? The only people developing it are a handful of people hacking on it for fun, as GNU Linux-libre does work despite its limitations, meaning GNU developers work on other GNU packages; https://www.gnu.org/software/
      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink

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      👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Feb-2025 02:01:55 JST 👺防空識別區👹 👺防空識別區👹
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      • Ayam Geprek

      @sun Kinda wild how HURD is still undeveloped. @Suiseiseki @goo

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink

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