Public
- Public
- Network
- Groups
- Featured
- Popular
- People

Conversation

Notices

Embed this notice
Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 23:40:29 JST Fish of Rage

I didn't post the meme about Politico missing payroll because of (allegedly) not getting USAID payments, because it smelled fishy. Correct call this time. Politico offers a premium subscription service similar to LexisNexis that many government agencies subscribe to which accounts for the payments since 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qDHZ3gFbdw

Someone will undoubtedly call this a kickback, which is possible, but they weren't just getting free money for their shit reporting.
In conversation about 4 months ago from shitposter.world permalink
Attachments
1. USAID EXPOSED For Paying POLITICO? Not So Fast! Robby Soave
  
  from The Hill
  
  Robby Soave delivers radar on the false claims that the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) funds Politico. #MSM #Trump #usaid About Rising: Ri...
- :ihavenomouth: likes this.
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 23:43:57 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  
  The White House Press Secretary repeated this untruth sadly.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 00:22:22 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
  @why @sun
  
  >are there ever any ramifications for them just lying?
  
  if the white house cared about telling the truth, they could fire him.
  
  but the white house lying is, well, normal for american politics so . . .
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  
  Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: likes this.
- Embed this notice
  Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?) (why@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 00:22:23 JST Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
  in reply to
  
  @sun what is the press secretary for again? are there ever any ramifications for them just lying? who is responsible for what they say (supposedly the president, but)?
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  
  Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: repeated this.
- Embed this notice
  AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:13 JST AuthoritativeJew™
  in reply to
  - ≠
  And I'd sure like to know what brilliant insights they were able to glean from the subscriptions that they didn't already have access to in the leviathan of the federal government? Because if our annual multi trillion dollar prison wardens need Politico to function, then they clearly there's a disconnect.
  @amerika @sun
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:13 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @truthbait @amerika if you've used LexisNexis you're know those things are worth 10K a year.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:14 JST AuthoritativeJew™
  in reply to
  
  Except that's the point. It was all laundered through fronts. The subscription service is just the cover. So is nearly every single social justice civil rights group of the last 50-70 years. It was all a grift to launder money for clandestine Ops and skimming. @sun
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:14 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  @truthbait @sun
  
  Focus on the bottom line: the USA paid millions to media sources.
  
  Sure it was for "subscriptions." Didn't they sell marijuana that way once too?
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:32:10 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @truthbait @amerika Politico offers a competing service.
  
  I realize it sounds stupid that the government needs someone outside government to tell them what other parts of the government are doing, but it's just a real thing.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:32:11 JST AuthoritativeJew™
  in reply to
  - ≠
  But that's not what this was, was it? This was Politico. And I'm sure that there are at least 12 different redundant departments responsible for compiling the same data Lexis Nexis does. Library of Congress can do it if they don't already. But if the feds need to rely on these services, then fire the feds and keep the services. They're the ones doing the real work. @sun @amerika
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:34:10 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @sun @truthbait @amerika stratfor does the *exact* same thing for about the same cost
  
  they are competitors
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:34:10 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @amerika @truthbait I find it hard to believe that Politico's version is worth a damn, but maybe it is.
  
  Stratfor is like a global intel thing, it's somewhat different, like you use stratfor if you are specifically interested in global conflict.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:46:43 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  - Rocket
  @Rocket the odds that it is a department shared account that isn't needed 99.999% of the time is like 1000:1
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Rocket (rocket@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:46:44 JST Rocket
  in reply to
  
  @sun A few questions. What is the quality of this service vs lexis nexis? How many government employees actually need "up-to-the-minute, detailed reporting on policy decisions?" Shouldn't they be getting those from their coworkers who actually make these policies? Also, how many right-wing news services got anywhere near the same level of government support?
  
  I think we already know the answers to all these questions.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:14 JST AuthoritativeJew™
  in reply to
  - ≠
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  The problem isn't that a govt agency was paying fees to a news org. It's that they were paying fees to a news org that was they pushing fake news also being crafted and propagated out of USAID. Like support for censorship.
  Like this sh't... https://www.politico.eu/article/despite-cries-of-censorship-us-conservatives-dominate-social-media/
  @amerika @jeffcliff @sun
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  Attachments
  1. Untitled attachment
  Fish of Rage likes this.
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:15 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @truthbait @sun
  
  Philosophically, there is a world of difference because Politico has media power and is being paid by the people it covers.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:16 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @amerika @truthbait @sun
  
  Authors will always be tempted to write what their audience will want to hear if they pay well. The difference between 'bribe' and 'paying author for their work' is fuzzy to the point of not distinguishable here.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:17 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @sun @truthbait
  
  for the people who think 'this isn't fair! why should the government be paying to view a free website!'
  
  this is exactly what @amerika and others often say people should do: "pay authors for their work! if you don't pay authors they won't write" this is more true of the kind of writing that politico does -- up to date analysis on current trends -- if you don't pay for this kind of thing, you'll get only the scraps and leftovers of people who do. For individuals this might not be a big deal, but for governments this might be. Also : they can afford to have a free loss-leader website if it means competing for the actual government subs with the likes of stratfor.
  
  generally: there may be a net positive or net negative when costs and benefits of this service are considered, and it may very well be not worth the cost. But just flat out complaining because "writers are being paid" is imho beneath people like at least @amerika
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:17 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @truthbait @sun
  
  I think you misattribute the cause of the criticism here.
  
  It's not "that's expensive" but "it's a bribe."
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:18 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @sun @amerika @truthbait
  
  Politico is clearly also a global intel thing.
  
  Internally they are probably exactly the same, structurally.
  
  They are just shitposters who get paid, and who write longer form reports when paid well, which is probably what we would do if we were paid 10,000$/subscriber
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:18:20 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @truthbait @amerika I'm not reading that shit but usually the way this works is, there are a few places where really powerful conservatives can express republican talking points about fucking over americans that democrats materially agree with; and they are allowed to do so. but the rank and file conservative is told by facebook that their post has had its visibility limited when they post an opinion held by 78% of americans.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:18:21 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @truthbait @amerika @sun
  
  There's nothing fake about that. Conservatives continued to dominate social media.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:57 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @amerika @truthbait @sun
  
  This is bullshit. ^
  
  I continued to follow conservatives on every platform that I had access to. That's not to say there was no censorship of them - of course there was. Just like there was of us.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:57 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @amerika @truthbait when they say that conservatives are not censored, they mean that house n*gg*rs like ross douthat at nyt are allowed to write to make conservatives look stupid
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:58 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @truthbait @sun
  
  Maybe, but all conservatives were censored, and Leftists were not.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:59 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @truthbait @sun
  
  Conservatives were censored across social media.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:59 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - AuthoritativeJew™
  - ≠
  @amerika @truthbait @sun *and so were nonconservatives*
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:55:10 JST mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木)
  in reply to
  - Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
  @why @sun Let me know when a journalist is held responsible for anything
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?) (why@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:55:10 JST Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
  in reply to
  - mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木)
  @moth_ball @sun press secretary is like journo prime. we should get rid of the position and force politics journalists to do TMZ shit to find out whats going on in the country
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  
  Fish of Rage likes this.
- Embed this notice
  mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:56:20 JST mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木)
  in reply to
  - Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
  @why @sun That would require someone with the competence and integrity for such a task and honestly I don't think those people want to work in the govt
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:56:47 JST Fish of Rage
  in reply to
  - Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
  - mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木)
  @moth_ball @why press secretary is lower than journalist imo
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  
  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: likes this.
- Embed this notice
  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:58:12 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
  in reply to
  - Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
  - mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木)
  @sun @moth_ball @why what about mating press secretary
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:39 JST AuthoritativeJew™
  in reply to
  It's not even close. This cannot possibly be an authentic conversation.
  @amerika @11112011 @jeffcliff @sun
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:40 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @truthbait @11112011 @amerika @sun
  
  > But it wasn't mainstream.
  
  Yeah, it was. There's been multiple waves of twitter refugees who were sick and tired of it at this point.
  
  > You can only point to yourself.
  
  No, I've pointed out MANY examples over the years and have spent a whole bunch of effort bringing awareness of those examples with my podcast and elsewhere. But it's a pretty big insult when I, myself, am affected and you just write it right off.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:40 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @11112011 @truthbait @sun
  
  Speaking of this, it's worth noting that the release of "The Twitter Files" showed how the censorship was directed at the Right for the political advantage of the Left.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:41 JST AuthoritativeJew™
  in reply to
  Show me the people on the left who were cancelled. We can compare. Ill go first. TRUMP. Now it's your turn. Go.
  @jeffcliff @11112011 @amerika @sun
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:41 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @truthbait @11112011 @amerika @sun ME
  
  Why do you think I'm on this side of the fediverse??
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:41 JST AuthoritativeJew™
  in reply to
  I'm not disputing there was some censorship of the left. But it wasn't mainstream. I can point to a long list of conservatives and their outlets that were censored. You can only point to yourself. You can't name a single prominent lefty who was censored can you? Not one mainstream, where on the right the list is long.
  Just take the "L" on this one, Canada. You've earned it.
  @jeffcliff @11112011 @amerika @sun
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:42 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @amerika @11112011 @truthbait @sun Yes very comparably. We're not going to get anywhere on this until the conservatives see this, too - it was a successful divide and conquer campaign by google to mass censor both left and right and then have eachother blame eachother for the censorship rather than the people who normalized the censorship (which may have even *actually* involved USAID)
  
  [in fact the left was censored *more* than the right, generally but this is irrelevant even]
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:43 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @amerika @11112011 @truthbait @sun So were non-conservatives
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:43 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @11112011 @truthbait @sun
  
  Not comparably at all.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:44 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @amerika @11112011 @truthbait @sun it's not just conservative ideas.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:44 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @11112011 @truthbait @sun
  
  No, but conservatives are targeted for their viewpoint.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  blitz (11112011@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:45 JST blitz
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @amerika @truthbait @sun u dont understand they a minority and were silenced not that they cant follow simple rules
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:45 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @11112011 @jeffcliff @sun @truthbait
  
  Ever since Google took over, conservative ideas have been taboo on the internet.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:38 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - Saskboy K.
  - ≠
  @saskboy @amerika that's wild
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:38 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @saskboy @amerika speaking of widely infectious viruses did you catch the thread about the tobacco mosaic virus infecting humans? I had no idea that was possible.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:39 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  - ≠
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @amerika even chickens have the right receptors to get infected.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:40 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
  
  We have genetic data now on who is actually at risk, mostly obese Hispanics.
  
  Heart disease sounds frightening.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:40 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @amerika @saskboy @truthbait @sun the genetic data says virtually everyone in kingdom mamalia is at risk, from whales to mice. Some groups are more at risk than others (perhaps including hispanics)
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:41 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
  
  I had COVID-19 in 2019.
  
  The comorbidities that killed people were mostly diabetes and hypertension.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:41 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  @amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun I haven't had it yet. Had about 7 shots though, and heart disease 11 years ago killed me.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:42 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  - ≠
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @amerika @truthbait@noauthority.social @jeffcliff @sun ... as you ignore the elephant in the room: practically everyone got infected by a harmful virus that directly killed millions, and other viruses are known to cause those comorbidities, but let's blame that science thing that conservatives now don't like together.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:43 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  @amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun call me a Conservative, I guess.
  "conservatives like order, which implicitly demands realism and goals like culture."
  A culture of respecting science isn't conservative now (if it ever was), because it's about sky gods, plane spraying hoaxes, eating well to cure viruses, and skipping shots to stay alive.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:43 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
  
  Some conservatives have those beliefs, for sure, but they are not directly related to conservatism.
  
  Half of published science is false.
  
  It's good to be skeptical, including of the vaccines, which seem to have left behind a lot of cancers and myocarditis.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:44 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  @amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun yes, I am pleased when an antiwaxxer or chemtrail kook loses access to a megaphone; call me a sane human.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:44 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
  
  No, I think your position here is not sane.
  
  We need an end to viewpoint discrimination and allowing everything to come to the table.
  
  Even -- especially -- the stuff I think is retarded.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:45 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
  
  Interesting pro-censorship position.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:46 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
  
  As far as censorship goes, I've experienced it from both sides.
  
  The website that hosted the Altar of Unholy Blasphemy and the Christian Holocaust (hint: pro) website had lots of trouble finding hosting.
  
  But conservative viewpoints are totally taboo in a diverse society.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:46 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  @amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun well, currently conservative viewpoints are essentially Christian Nationalism at best, and at worst a type of fascism that builds concentration camps. And I hope those always remain taboo and ostracized views.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:47 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  @amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun oh, so that's why Facebook stopped allowing my blog links a decade ago, because I'm... conservative. *shudders*
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:55 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @saskboy @Waerloga @jeffcliff
  
  None of this happened here, and we're a top five medical town, so (shrug) I'd be cautious about believing the hysterical media... it's corporate produkt too.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:56 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  @amerika @Waerloga @jeffcliff oh, you help cover up mass deaths. Another person who forgot there were freezer trucks full of morgue overflow, and people dropping dead in the streets only 5 years ago.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:57 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @amerika @Waerloga @saskboy "seem" to be doing OK until you actually bother to count *which even the above study does* and finds that there's fewer of the antivaxxers even around to count
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:57 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff @Waerloga @saskboy
  
  Seem to be doing OK in that no one has changed.
  
  There were not mass casualties.
  
  Mostly what I see is COVID-19 handouts in the Hispanic areas, which makes it look like a subsidy for people with diabetes.
  
  "Free" healthcare. COVID-1 was an insurance scam from top to bottom.
  
  I put in a minor carveout for people who have Mongolian heritage that splintered off 13k years ago:
  
  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03767-x
  
  But these are few and generally speak Spanish and are obese anyway.
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  Attachments
  1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: media.springernature.com
    
    Mapping the human genetic architecture of COVID-19 - Nature
    
    A global network of researchers was formed to investigate the role of human genetics in SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 severity; this paper reports 13 genome-wide significant loci and potentially actionable mechanisms in response to infection.
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:58 JST ≠
  in reply to
  @Waerloga @saskboy @jeffcliff
  
  Same sitch here. Lotta people who took the vax are not doing so well or are four-up, but the people who toughed it out seem to be doing OK.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  O. G. Don Kenobi (waerloga@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:59 JST O. G. Don Kenobi
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff
  >>you have been consistently wrong for years.
  
  -Never covid vaxxed, only wore my own cloth masks until I realized that too was bull$chitt.
  -Wife never covid vaxxed
  -4 kids never ever vaxxed for anything at all.
  -all alive and healthy
  -I have friends back in Ontario ages 25+ who have mysteriously died post-vaccination until now (about 1 every 4 months since 2021). Another in her 40s died two weeks ago and one in her mid 50s who is now terminal as of last week.
  
  Being this “wrong” about covid, and living, is not to unlike being a pig to women and still hooking up with them.
  
  Feels good man, feels good.
  
  @amerika @saskboy
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:00 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @Waerloga @amerika @saskboy The virus is isolated every day, we've been through this.
  
  >-there are more healthy people who died suddenly after taking the full schedule of vaccines than
  > -people who were sickly and susceptible who were completed protected once they came it contact with this alleged disease.
  
  this is a lie. COVID is what caused people to "die suddenly" NOT the vaccine.
  
  >Been beating this dead horse for years.
  
  And you've been consistently wrong for years
  
  and your link *supports* vaccination.
  
  key point
  > here were 650 SARS-CoV-2–associated hospitalizations in the vaccinated group versus 823 in the unvaccinated group (VE, 16.64% [CI, 6.47% to 25.77%]). There were 109 SARS-CoV-2–associated deaths in the vaccinated group versus 147 in the unvaccinated group (VE, 26.61% [CI, 5.53% to 42.32%]
  
  this is with vaccinating against a variant that wasn't even circulating
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  O. G. Don Kenobi (waerloga@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:01 JST O. G. Don Kenobi
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff
  
  Just published last week:
  
  https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/ANNALS-24-01015
  
  Pretty easy to show vaccines and their campaign were a sham. Already showed you two years ago that no government had documentation proving that they were able to isolate this “virus”.
  
  If you cant isolate it, and the medicine against it doesn’t work, maybe something else is killing people.
  
  Given the ubiquity of vaccine acceptance, the vaccines are at least worth a second look, especially since:
  
  -there are more healthy people who died suddenly after taking the full schedule of vaccines than
  
  -people who were sickly and susceptible who were completed protected once they came it contact with this alleged disease.
  
  Last post about this I will make in this thread. Been beating this dead horse for years.
  
  @amerika @saskboy
  image.png
  image.png
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  Attachments
- Embed this notice
  O. G. Don Kenobi (waerloga@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:02 JST O. G. Don Kenobi
  in reply to
  @jeffcliff
  >>It is a real pandemic
  
  @amerika @saskboy
  image.gif
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  Attachments
  1. image.gif
    https://fsebugoutzone.org/media/cc8d1675-4b6f-4474-befd-dff612e28df2/image.gif?name=image.gif
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:03 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  @Waerloga @amerika @saskboy It is a real pandemic.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  O. G. Don Kenobi (waerloga@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:05 JST O. G. Don Kenobi
  in reply to
  @amerika
  
  Insurance scam, pension theft scheme, depopulation and psychological warfare exercise.
  
  @jeffcliff @saskboy
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:06 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - Saskboy K.
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @saskboy
  
  Don't know, but Texas got rid of masks early on and somehow everyone survived.
  
  IMHO the whole thing was an insurance scam.
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:07 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - Saskboy K.
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @saskboy
  
  A lot of people got fired for being against this particular vaccine.
  
  Since a fair number of people identify it as a cause of health problems, their skepticism is scientific.
  
  https://x.com/Ireadyourpaper/status/1887539279011918056
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  Attachments
  1. Untitled attachment
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:07 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - Saskboy K.
  - ≠
  @amerika @saskboy they died DURING AN ONGOING PANDEMIC
  after how many infections?
  
  identifying the vaccine with their health problems is almost always done in error by these people -- they are blaming the vaccine for what COVID does
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:08 JST ≠
  in reply to
  - Saskboy K.
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @saskboy @jeffcliff
  
  Interesting lady semi-local to us
  
  https://x.com/MdBreathe
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
  Attachments
  1. Untitled attachment
- Embed this notice
  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:08 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  in reply to
  - Saskboy K.
  - ≠
  @amerika @saskboy > americans for health freedom
  
  :eyeroll:
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
- Embed this notice
  Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:09 JST Saskboy K.
  in reply to
  - ≠
  - Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
  @jeffcliff @amerika makes sense, e.g. Bird Flu
  
  In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

Feeds