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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 23:40:29 JST 
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I didn't post the meme about Politico missing payroll because of (allegedly) not getting USAID payments, because it smelled fishy. Correct call this time. Politico offers a premium subscription service similar to LexisNexis that many government agencies subscribe to which accounts for the payments since 2016.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qDHZ3gFbdw
Someone will undoubtedly call this a kickback, which is possible, but they weren't just getting free money for their shit reporting.- :ihavenomouth: likes this.
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 23:43:57 JST
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 00:22:22 JST 
Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@why @sun
>are there ever any ramifications for them just lying?
if the white house cared about telling the truth, they could fire him.
but the white house lying is, well, normal for american politics so . . .Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: likes this. -
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Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?) (why@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 00:22:23 JST 
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@sun what is the press secretary for again? are there ever any ramifications for them just lying? who is responsible for what they say (supposedly the president, but)? Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: repeated this. -
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AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:13 JST 
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And I'd sure like to know what brilliant insights they were able to glean from the subscriptions that they didn't already have access to in the leviathan of the federal government? Because if our annual multi trillion dollar prison wardens need Politico to function, then they clearly there's a disconnect.
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:13 JST
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@truthbait @amerika if you've used LexisNexis you're know those things are worth 10K a year. -
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AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:14 JST
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Except that's the point. It was all laundered through fronts. The subscription service is just the cover. So is nearly every single social justice civil rights group of the last 50-70 years. It was all a grift to launder money for clandestine Ops and skimming. @sun
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:27:14 JST 
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@truthbait @sun
Focus on the bottom line: the USA paid millions to media sources.
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:32:10 JST
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@truthbait @amerika Politico offers a competing service.
I realize it sounds stupid that the government needs someone outside government to tell them what other parts of the government are doing, but it's just a real thing. -
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AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:32:11 JST
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But that's not what this was, was it? This was Politico. And I'm sure that there are at least 12 different redundant departments responsible for compiling the same data Lexis Nexis does. Library of Congress can do it if they don't already. But if the feds need to rely on these services, then fire the feds and keep the services. They're the ones doing the real work. @sun @amerika
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:34:10 JST
Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@sun @truthbait @amerika stratfor does the *exact* same thing for about the same cost
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:34:10 JST
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@jeffcliff @amerika @truthbait I find it hard to believe that Politico's version is worth a damn, but maybe it is.
Stratfor is like a global intel thing, it's somewhat different, like you use stratfor if you are specifically interested in global conflict. -
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:46:43 JST
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@Rocket the odds that it is a department shared account that isn't needed 99.999% of the time is like 1000:1 -
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Rocket (rocket@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 01:46:44 JST 
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@sun A few questions. What is the quality of this service vs lexis nexis? How many government employees actually need "up-to-the-minute, detailed reporting on policy decisions?" Shouldn't they be getting those from their coworkers who actually make these policies? Also, how many right-wing news services got anywhere near the same level of government support?
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AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:14 JST
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The problem isn't that a govt agency was paying fees to a news org. It's that they were paying fees to a news org that was they pushing fake news also being crafted and propagated out of USAID. Like support for censorship.
Like this sh't... https://www.politico.eu/article/despite-cries-of-censorship-us-conservatives-dominate-social-media/
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:15 JST
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@jeffcliff @truthbait @sun
Philosophically, there is a world of difference because Politico has media power and is being paid by the people it covers. -
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:16 JST
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@amerika @truthbait @sun
Authors will always be tempted to write what their audience will want to hear if they pay well. The difference between 'bribe' and 'paying author for their work' is fuzzy to the point of not distinguishable here. -
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:17 JST
Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@sun @truthbait
for the people who think 'this isn't fair! why should the government be paying to view a free website!'
this is exactly what @amerika and others often say people should do: "pay authors for their work! if you don't pay authors they won't write" this is more true of the kind of writing that politico does -- up to date analysis on current trends -- if you don't pay for this kind of thing, you'll get only the scraps and leftovers of people who do. For individuals this might not be a big deal, but for governments this might be. Also : they can afford to have a free loss-leader website if it means competing for the actual government subs with the likes of stratfor.
generally: there may be a net positive or net negative when costs and benefits of this service are considered, and it may very well be not worth the cost. But just flat out complaining because "writers are being paid" is imho beneath people like at least @amerika -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:17 JST
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I think you misattribute the cause of the criticism here.
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:16:18 JST
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@sun @amerika @truthbait
Politico is clearly also a global intel thing.
Internally they are probably exactly the same, structurally.
They are just shitposters who get paid, and who write longer form reports when paid well, which is probably what we would do if we were paid 10,000$/subscriber -
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:18:20 JST
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@jeffcliff @truthbait @amerika I'm not reading that shit but usually the way this works is, there are a few places where really powerful conservatives can express republican talking points about fucking over americans that democrats materially agree with; and they are allowed to do so. but the rank and file conservative is told by facebook that their post has had its visibility limited when they post an opinion held by 78% of americans. -
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:18:21 JST
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@truthbait @amerika @sun
There's nothing fake about that. Conservatives continued to dominate social media. -
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:57 JST
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@amerika @truthbait @sun
This is bullshit. ^
I continued to follow conservatives on every platform that I had access to. That's not to say there was no censorship of them - of course there was. Just like there was of us. -
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:57 JST
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@jeffcliff @amerika @truthbait when they say that conservatives are not censored, they mean that house n*gg*rs like ross douthat at nyt are allowed to write to make conservatives look stupid -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:58 JST
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@jeffcliff @truthbait @sun
Maybe, but all conservatives were censored, and Leftists were not. -
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Conservatives were censored across social media. -
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 03:22:59 JST
Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@amerika @truthbait @sun *and so were nonconservatives* -
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mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:55:10 JST 
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@why @sun Let me know when a journalist is held responsible for anything -
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Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?) (why@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:55:10 JST
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@moth_ball @sun press secretary is like journo prime. we should get rid of the position and force politics journalists to do TMZ shit to find out whats going on in the country Blurry Moon likes this. -
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mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:56:20 JST
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@why @sun That would require someone with the competence and integrity for such a task and honestly I don't think those people want to work in the govt -
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Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:56:47 JST
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@moth_ball @why press secretary is lower than journalist imo narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: likes this. -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:58:12 JST 
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AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:39 JST
AuthoritativeJew™
It's not even close. This cannot possibly be an authentic conversation.
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:40 JST
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@truthbait @11112011 @amerika @sun
> But it wasn't mainstream.
Yeah, it was. There's been multiple waves of twitter refugees who were sick and tired of it at this point.
> You can only point to yourself.
No, I've pointed out MANY examples over the years and have spent a whole bunch of effort bringing awareness of those examples with my podcast and elsewhere. But it's a pretty big insult when I, myself, am affected and you just write it right off. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:40 JST
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@jeffcliff @11112011 @truthbait @sun
Speaking of this, it's worth noting that the release of "The Twitter Files" showed how the censorship was directed at the Right for the political advantage of the Left. -
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AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:41 JST
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Show me the people on the left who were cancelled. We can compare. Ill go first. TRUMP. Now it's your turn. Go.
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:41 JST
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AuthoritativeJew™ (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:41 JST
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I'm not disputing there was some censorship of the left. But it wasn't mainstream. I can point to a long list of conservatives and their outlets that were censored. You can only point to yourself. You can't name a single prominent lefty who was censored can you? Not one mainstream, where on the right the list is long.
Just take the "L" on this one, Canada. You've earned it.
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:42 JST
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@amerika @11112011 @truthbait @sun Yes very comparably. We're not going to get anywhere on this until the conservatives see this, too - it was a successful divide and conquer campaign by google to mass censor both left and right and then have eachother blame eachother for the censorship rather than the people who normalized the censorship (which may have even *actually* involved USAID)
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:43 JST
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@amerika @11112011 @truthbait @sun So were non-conservatives -
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@amerika @11112011 @truthbait @sun it's not just conservative ideas. -
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@jeffcliff @11112011 @truthbait @sun
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blitz (11112011@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:45 JST 
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@jeffcliff @amerika @truthbait @sun u dont understand they a minority and were silenced not that they cant follow simple rules -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:41:45 JST
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@11112011 @jeffcliff @sun @truthbait
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:38 JST
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@saskboy @amerika that's wild -
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:38 JST
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@saskboy @amerika speaking of widely infectious viruses did you catch the thread about the tobacco mosaic virus infecting humans? I had no idea that was possible. -
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:39 JST 
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@jeffcliff @amerika even chickens have the right receptors to get infected.
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:40 JST
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@saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
We have genetic data now on who is actually at risk, mostly obese Hispanics.
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@amerika @saskboy @truthbait @sun the genetic data says virtually everyone in kingdom mamalia is at risk, from whales to mice. Some groups are more at risk than others (perhaps including hispanics) -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:41 JST
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@saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
I had COVID-19 in 2019.
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:41 JST
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@amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun I haven't had it yet. Had about 7 shots though, and heart disease 11 years ago killed me.
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:42 JST
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@amerika @truthbait@noauthority.social @jeffcliff @sun ... as you ignore the elephant in the room: practically everyone got infected by a harmful virus that directly killed millions, and other viruses are known to cause those comorbidities, but let's blame that science thing that conservatives now don't like together.
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:43 JST
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@amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun call me a Conservative, I guess.
"conservatives like order, which implicitly demands realism and goals like culture."
A culture of respecting science isn't conservative now (if it ever was), because it's about sky gods, plane spraying hoaxes, eating well to cure viruses, and skipping shots to stay alive. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:43 JST
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@saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
Some conservatives have those beliefs, for sure, but they are not directly related to conservatism.
Half of published science is false.
It's good to be skeptical, including of the vaccines, which seem to have left behind a lot of cancers and myocarditis. -
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:44 JST
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@amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun yes, I am pleased when an antiwaxxer or chemtrail kook loses access to a megaphone; call me a sane human.
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@saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
No, I think your position here is not sane.
We need an end to viewpoint discrimination and allowing everything to come to the table.
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:45 JST
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@saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:46 JST
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@saskboy @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun
As far as censorship goes, I've experienced it from both sides.
The website that hosted the Altar of Unholy Blasphemy and the Christian Holocaust (hint: pro) website had lots of trouble finding hosting.
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:46 JST
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@amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun well, currently conservative viewpoints are essentially Christian Nationalism at best, and at worst a type of fascism that builds concentration camps. And I hope those always remain taboo and ostracized views.
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:12:47 JST
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@amerika @truthbait @jeffcliff @sun oh, so that's why Facebook stopped allowing my blog links a decade ago, because I'm... conservative. *shudders*
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:55 JST
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@saskboy @Waerloga @jeffcliff
None of this happened here, and we're a top five medical town, so (shrug) I'd be cautious about believing the hysterical media... it's corporate produkt too. -
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Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:56 JST
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@amerika @Waerloga @jeffcliff oh, you help cover up mass deaths. Another person who forgot there were freezer trucks full of morgue overflow, and people dropping dead in the streets only 5 years ago.
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:57 JST
Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@amerika @Waerloga @saskboy "seem" to be doing OK until you actually bother to count *which even the above study does* and finds that there's fewer of the antivaxxers even around to count -
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@jeffcliff @Waerloga @saskboy
Seem to be doing OK in that no one has changed.
There were not mass casualties.
Mostly what I see is COVID-19 handouts in the Hispanic areas, which makes it look like a subsidy for people with diabetes.
"Free" healthcare. COVID-1 was an insurance scam from top to bottom.
I put in a minor carveout for people who have Mongolian heritage that splintered off 13k years ago:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03767-x
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@Waerloga @saskboy @jeffcliff
Same sitch here. Lotta people who took the vax are not doing so well or are four-up, but the people who toughed it out seem to be doing OK. -
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O. G. Don Kenobi (waerloga@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:51:59 JST
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@jeffcliff
>>you have been consistently wrong for years.
-Never covid vaxxed, only wore my own cloth masks until I realized that too was bull$chitt.
-Wife never covid vaxxed
-4 kids never ever vaxxed for anything at all.
-all alive and healthy
-I have friends back in Ontario ages 25+ who have mysteriously died post-vaccination until now (about 1 every 4 months since 2021). Another in her 40s died two weeks ago and one in her mid 50s who is now terminal as of last week.
Being this “wrong” about covid, and living, is not to unlike being a pig to women and still hooking up with them.
Feels good man, feels good.
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@Waerloga @amerika @saskboy The virus is isolated every day, we've been through this.
>-there are more healthy people who died suddenly after taking the full schedule of vaccines than
> -people who were sickly and susceptible who were completed protected once they came it contact with this alleged disease.
this is a lie. COVID is what caused people to "die suddenly" NOT the vaccine.
>Been beating this dead horse for years.
And you've been consistently wrong for years
and your link *supports* vaccination.
key point
> here were 650 SARS-CoV-2–associated hospitalizations in the vaccinated group versus 823 in the unvaccinated group (VE, 16.64% [CI, 6.47% to 25.77%]). There were 109 SARS-CoV-2–associated deaths in the vaccinated group versus 147 in the unvaccinated group (VE, 26.61% [CI, 5.53% to 42.32%]
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@jeffcliff
Just published last week:
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/ANNALS-24-01015
Pretty easy to show vaccines and their campaign were a sham. Already showed you two years ago that no government had documentation proving that they were able to isolate this “virus”.
If you cant isolate it, and the medicine against it doesn’t work, maybe something else is killing people.
Given the ubiquity of vaccine acceptance, the vaccines are at least worth a second look, especially since:
-there are more healthy people who died suddenly after taking the full schedule of vaccines than
-people who were sickly and susceptible who were completed protected once they came it contact with this alleged disease.
Last post about this I will make in this thread. Been beating this dead horse for years.
@amerika @saskboy
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@jeffcliff
>>It is a real pandemic
@amerika @saskboy
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@Waerloga @amerika @saskboy It is a real pandemic. -
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@amerika
Insurance scam, pension theft scheme, depopulation and psychological warfare exercise.
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@jeffcliff @saskboy
Don't know, but Texas got rid of masks early on and somehow everyone survived.
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@jeffcliff @saskboy
A lot of people got fired for being against this particular vaccine.
Since a fair number of people identify it as a cause of health problems, their skepticism is scientific.
https://x.com/Ireadyourpaper/status/1887539279011918056 -
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:07 JST
Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@amerika @saskboy they died DURING AN ONGOING PANDEMIC
after how many infections?
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@saskboy @jeffcliff
Interesting lady semi-local to us
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Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 01:52:08 JST
Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴☠️🦝🐙 🐧
@amerika @saskboy > americans for health freedom
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@jeffcliff @amerika makes sense, e.g. Bird Flu
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