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   Tom Walker (tomw@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 06-Feb-2025 23:01:00 JST Tom Walker

   People on Mastodon talk a lot about moving to the open source alternative to everything, but the real imperative now is to shift to the non-US-hosted alternative to everything.

   Sometimes this overlaps but right now, geography should be the priority.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 00:50:28 JST Rich Felker

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     • Lesley Carhart :unverified:
     • Kailee ♾️ Voting Midterms God

     @hacks4pancakes @tomw @skykiss DNS root, anyone?

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     Lesley Carhart :unverified: (hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 00:50:29 JST Lesley Carhart :unverified:

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     • Kailee ♾️ Voting Midterms God

     @tomw @skykiss I saw a really interesting talk on this by HoodiePwnie where they really looked into how the internet can survive without America, and certificate issuers were a massive problem.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 00:54:46 JST Rich Felker

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     • Kailee ♾️ Voting Midterms God

     @hacks4pancakes @tomw @skykiss Awful problems like this aside though, we're in the "complying in advance" stage right now, not the "complying under threat of gun" one.

     What I mean by this is that the big US based stuff to avoid are the Big Tech companies pushing and shoving in line to be the first or best kisser of his ass. Small players who have no part in this game and who actually have to compete for customers are not going to screw us over unless/until we're at that later phase.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 01:32:25 JST Rich Felker

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     • Lesley Carhart :unverified:
     • Kailee ♾️ Voting Midterms God
     • maswan

     @maswan @hacks4pancakes @tomw @skykiss The root key is physically situated in the US.

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     maswan (maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 01:32:27 JST maswan

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     • Lesley Carhart :unverified:
     • Kailee ♾️ Voting Midterms God
     • Rich Felker

     @dalias
     DNS root is already international in terms of infrastructure.

     A split in content would be really harsh to deal with, but dropping the US-owned root servers from roots.hint should be reasonably fast for the majority of resolvers by usage.

     The "only" real complications I see are the US-owned browser with the DoH resolving using US companies, and corporate systems being slow to update.
     @hacks4pancakes @tomw @skykiss