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   Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:47:00 JST Insane Eagle Sun
   What I am saying is, Farcaster has some value but it's also got frustrations. I'm not getting much traction there in part because I am critical and negative and that vibe doesn't match the builder vibe, which to be honest I consider gross toxic positivity.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:48:34 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     I persist there because it's fun to be around people enthusiastic about building stuff though, and people are actually willing to try new things there with very little prompting. People on the Fediverse range from disinterested (which is ok, but it isnt good for me) to outright Luddite.
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:38:35 JST deutrino

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     @sun it's microblogging?

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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:38:35 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @deutrino yeah, that's about all it will do, it has no other primitives than note and emote and reshare.
     
     clients extrapolate some extra functionality through embedding link content
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:41:06 JST deutrino

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     @sun interesting, especially the bit about toxic positivity. did you give up on Nostr?

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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:41:06 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @deutrino nothing interesting is being talked about on nostr.
     
     I've been critical about nostr's technicals but they limp along suitably. however just no interesting discussions and other than alex I don't like anything anyone is building on the platform. bitcoin is a poor platform to build on, web3 is way better
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:44:59 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • deutrino
     @deutrino Farcaster has a really popular client for it made by the same people that made the protocol, called Warpcast. It has a thing called "frames" which are like embedded webapps. They enable a different way of extending content than the Fediverse has. The issue with the Fediverse is if you want to extend it you create activity types and the data exists right on the same linked data structure as the social graph, that enables all kinds of potential cool stuff, but in practice only a few activity types are supported, and getting buy-in for support of more types is practically impossible. Farcaster bypasses this by extending functionality using embedded web profile of sorts. However the problem there is that every frames app is like a little fiefdom that locks up your data.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:45:12 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • deutrino
     @deutrino I'm not completely giving up on Nostr, I just have criticisms and Farcaster is definitely a better fit for me.
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:45:13 JST deutrino

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     @sun yeah, I established a toehold due to its censorship-resistant properties, but it's mostly bitcoin maxis posting affirmations and talking about eating nothing but steak. I'm probably gonna keep poking around over there though.

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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:46:46 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @grey no.
     
     actually something that is really funny is they're definitely in the "we're so awesome we don't have all these social problems that the other platforms have" and it's like no shit you don't have those problems, you're in dead last place for popularity, all those problems are ones you have when you're popular.
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     『g r e y』 :uv: ☦️ (grey@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:46:47 JST 『g r e y』 :uv: ☦️

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     @sun but do they post anime tits?
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:48:23 JST deutrino

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     @sun seems like every form of decentralized social networking has certain key downsides which stem from being decentralized

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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:48:59 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @deutrino they do, I think if you've made an attempt to use them all and understand them you start appreciating that one size is not gonna fit all. Sorry Evan, ActivityPub is not the last, best thing.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:51:32 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @deutrino even if there was a last, best thing it would NOT be activitypub in its current form
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:51:33 JST deutrino

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     @sun yeah, with literal billions of users, fragmentation is fine.

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     monsignor_dickface (monsignor_dickface@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:51:48 JST monsignor_dickface

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     Lol. Clueless retards then.
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:58:43 JST deutrino

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     @sun I haven't been able to keep as close an eye on its development as I'd like, despite wanting to build apps on it. I seem to recall there being some glaring unsolved problems with it even apart from the problem of having to convince every implementor to support a new object type.

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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 12:58:43 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     • deutrino
     @deutrino so my understanding is that the reason we have activitypub in its current form is that there was a time limit to submit a draft for w3c. it already had its deadline extended once and would have gotten dropped if it weren't submitted for approval or however it works. Even now, with years of backward perspective about what worked and what didn't etc, people are still arguing over how basic parts of it should work. I think this is a sign that the spec is too complicated for humans and a failure.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 13:00:50 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @deutrino it basically works but it's already creaking with scale and has weird parts hanging off it.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 13:03:26 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @deutrino I have been talking to two different people that have very different visions of how it SHOULD work. the more idealistic one has fantastic ideas and conceptualizes how it should work elegantly and cleanly but it's just too much stuff.
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 13:03:27 JST deutrino

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     @sun interesting that even with years in on this network existing, it's really not immediately obvious how to build something very much like it but cleaner.