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   nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 05:45:31 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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   @rher 300 GB worth of data does that to a Pleromer
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:00:47 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @Lyx @rher You can't just reinstall Pleroma on the same domain, I'm not so clear on the technical details myself but there are.. problems that arise with instances that have already federated with your old install if you try that.
     
     You could probably just purge all of the old posts from db, but that would take a long time and would probably be unnecessarily complicated
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     Lyx (lyx@cum.salon)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:00:49 JST Lyx

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     @nyanide @rher the thing im unclear about, why dont u guys just purge it all and start eith a clean slate instead of purchasing and setting up a new domain¿
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:01:24 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @Lyx @rher By the way the new asbestos is on a different subdomain meso never paid any money for a new one
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     Tinosoft :verified: :cgss_anzu: (tinosoft@miniwa.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:02:23 JST Tinosoft :verified: :cgss_anzu:

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     @nyanide @Lyx @rher es.spc and spc never gotten problems with that, my affirmation as a old user, you can ask to @sun
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     tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:03:14 JST tsoifan1997

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     @nyanide @Lyx @rher
     Couldn't you just copy all the old private keys into the new instance?
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:03:36 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @tinosoft @Lyx @rher @sun I was talking about installing on the exact same domain not on a subdomain or whatever I should've clarified
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:03:37 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @sysrq @Lyx @rher Oh, you could. I don't think anybody's done that but it's in theory possible.
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     tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:04:06 JST tsoifan1997

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     @nyanide @Lyx @rher
     Fucking pussies, smh.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:08:13 JST :blank:

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     @tinosoft @Lyx @nyanide @rher @sun you definitely can do a reinstall on the same domain, but other software might not accept users with the same name if you don't have their rsa keys backed up
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:09:56 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @i @Lyx @tinosoft @rher @sun Yeah the keys thing, you could just do a Matrix Server Admin moment and copy all of the keys over to a new install of Pleroma. I guess it'd mostly work in theory? There'd probably be a few weird issues like instances sharing posts that no longer exist and new instances actually getting them.
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:10:40 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @i @Lyx @rher @sun @tinosoft But aren't all objects signed? I think the signature should have expired by then so probably wouldn't make a ton of sense
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:12:01 JST feld

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     @nyanide @Lyx @rher this is less of a problem these days. Pleroma instances will attempt to refetch keys if it receives signed activities that don't validate due to key mismatch. So key changes are possible. I think Mastodon does similar now.
     
     Unclear about other software
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     tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:14:33 JST tsoifan1997

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     @nyanide @Lyx @i @rher @sun @tinosoft
     Pleroma's HTTP signatures don't contain an expiry field.
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:14:45 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @sysrq @Lyx @i @rher @sun @tinosoft I should really be more educated on this stuff, man.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:16:18 JST :blank:

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     @nyanide @Lyx @tinosoft @rher @sun signed at time of delivery, not in the db
     
     you couldn't fetch things from servers that check get requests since pleroma's internal.fetch actors key wouldn't match
     
     but stuff would keep working, mostly, you could even do a find and replace operation like bae.st did
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     tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 06:16:26 JST tsoifan1997

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     @nyanide @Lyx @i @rher @sun @tinosoft
     You'll learn more and understand less, don't look behind the veil.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:04:03 JST feld

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     @i @Lyx @nyanide @rher If you lose control of the domain I think you have to accept the consequences.
     
     But Pleroma does not allow deleted accounts on an instance to be registered again, so that level of impersonation is mitigated anyway
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:04:04 JST :blank:

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     @feld @Lyx @nyanide @rher huh, neat, so domain reuse is definitely viable, and seems like pleroma it self was the thing holding it back from happening, instead of worries about people impersonating old instances
     
     checked the misskey/mastodon code/issues and they definitely do key eventual refetches once their ~24h caches expire
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:33:44 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @Lyx @i @feld @rher That's a destructive thing, there's no way to tell other servers the account has been undeleted and it will be broken on most servers
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     Lyx (lyx@cum.salon)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:33:45 JST Lyx

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     @feld @i @nyanide @rher can u restore deleted accounts or is that effected by that as well¿
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     Lyx (lyx@cum.salon)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:43:06 JST Lyx

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     @nyanide @i @feld @rher i see these things are both very valuable information to have thank u :putin_wink:
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     nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 08:21:59 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     @Lyx @i @feld @rher You could but most instances do not federate with tor
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     Lyx (lyx@cum.salon)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 08:22:01 JST Lyx

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     @nyanide @i @feld @rher i had an interesting idea at inr point, to evade block lists, could u possibly set up a rotation of tor domains since u dont have to buy them¿ like to auto generate a new one weekly¿ i was figuringbdoing it on cloud would make it possible rather than a physical server location. I wouldnt do it but i thought it was an intereating idea
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 09:01:05 JST 

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     @i @Lyx @feld @nyanide @rher >there's a few public https to tor gateways people have used for that
     I think I used one of them (onion.ly or something) to block evade, it was pretty slow and also embedded some analytics scripts. tor.observer is apparently fresher and more stable but some pedophile figured this thing out as well so I chemo'd it just in case.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 09:01:07 JST :blank:

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     @Lyx @feld @nyanide @rher there's a few public https to tor gateways people have used for that, it's not too hard to write software that can work on a wildcard certificate *.instance.domain giving you infinite domains to work with too
     
     but then people block the root domain including all subdomains, so you're stuck with buying multiples of the cheapest possible domain and cycling through them
     
     and things like pleroma don't do multiple domains, so it's a bother
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 13:16:17 JST :blank:

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     @mint @Lyx @feld @nyanide @rher no getting around the icann troll toll, but at least legal abuse of the system is cheap enough these days
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