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   Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 07:47:13 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

   Are you fucking kidding me?

   Jack Dorsey is a main track speaker at FOSDEM this year:
   https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-4507-infusing-open-source-culture-into-company-dna-a-conversation-with-jack-dorsey-and-manik-surtani-block-s-head-of-open-source/

   🤮

   I am at a loss of words. I also owe sincere apologies to everyone flagging issues with FOSDEM over the years, whose concerns I often somewhat minimized. I am sorry, you were all right and I was wrong.

   FOSDEM is now explicitly platforming AI/blockchain bro fascists. 🤬

   #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2025

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 08:42:48 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • wbftw

     @wbftw the answer is painfully simple: money.

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     wbftw (wbftw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 08:42:49 JST wbftw

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     @rysiek I was quite shocked when I learned about this and still processing it. It is beyond me why people like Dorsey are invited to Fosdem, a platform for communities that are (ostensibly) completely opposite to pretty much everything Dorsey stands for.

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     wbftw (wbftw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 08:56:01 JST wbftw

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     @rysiek Not arguing with you at all, but genuine question: what's changed, why do they need more money this year? I understand why Dorsey would want this (public appreciation and respect is like catnip for these assholes), but since when is Fosdem about money (admittedly it's been a few years since my last visit)?

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 08:56:01 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • wbftw

     @wbftw it's always been sponsored by Big Tech. Nothing's really changed, apart from Dorsey's new scam company becoming one of the sponsors.

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     `Da Elf (elfin@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 12:16:55 JST `Da Elf

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     @rysiek

     #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2025
     Dorsey has No Fucking Business speaking to FOSS.

     Time to STFU Jack. Or is he becoming another Andreeson?

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     David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*) (david_chisnall@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:33:19 JST David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

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     @rysiek They claim his talk is not related to his sponsorship, which I don’t think makes it better.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:33:36 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

     @david_chisnall yeah, no, it just shows they completely miss what the issue is

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     Nova (sup3rn0va@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:37:20 JST Nova

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     @rysiek I'm new to techy culture and am still mostly a newb at coding and doing cyber security and all that. Can you explain what this means and why it's bad? Like I know why and agree AI shills are bad, but otherwise I'm a bit lost.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:37:20 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • Nova

     @SUp3rN0va the second link I think explains it pretty well. But to add to that, Jack Dorsey is responsible for killing the early idea of Twitter being federated.

     Let me say this again, Dorsey is the person who killed the early push inside Twitter (we are talking very early, when it really could have made the difference) to make Twitter a decentralized service. As in, like fedi is today.

     And now he's going to bloviate about open source at FOSDEM?..

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     Adam (adamsaidsomething@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:37:37 JST Adam

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     @rysiek

     Offdem is a thing now

     https://offdem.net

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:38:13 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • Adam

     @adamsaidsomething yeah. I had the pleasure of attending the very first Offdem, years ago.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:41:58 JST Rich Felker

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     • David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

     @david_chisnall @rysiek This is such clownery. If you accept sponsorships, sponsoring parties and their affiliates and representatives need to be completely excluded from keynotes and acceptance of any talks they want to give need to be above-upstanding in demonstrating qualifications and that they're not shit like product pitches. Or else they need to be clearly labeled as "sponsor ad" talks so everyone knows to avoid and distrust them.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:52:13 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • bumi
     • Nova

     @bumi @SUp3rN0va regarding the federated Twitter work, I interviewed a person who had worked there at the time, and it was a real thing, published here in Polish:
     https://oko.press/ucieczka-z-twittera-przyszlosc-mediow-spolecznosciowych

     As far as Dorsey killing it, that's coming from people I know and trust who are in a position to know about this. There are probably other sources online, too.

     As far as Jack's "decentralization" shtick, I mentioned this in my blog post about BlueSky's faux-decentralization:
     https://rys.io/en/167.html#jacks-bs

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:52:14 JST bumi

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     • Nova

     @rysiek @SUp3rN0va do you have references for that?
     In the last years I only heard him speaking about thr importance of protocols and decentralized platforms. With criticism of Twitter etc.
     Afaik he is also funding work on that (like for example initially bluesky and nostr)
     To me he was one of the most active and outspoken CEOs in that regard.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:58:46 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • bumi
     • Nova

     @bumi @SUp3rN0va Dorsey quit BlueSky after it started adding basic moderation tools:
     https://www.yahoo.com/tech/why-jack-dorsey-quit-bluesky-142010934.html

     You know, tools to stop nazis from harassing Trans folks, for example. That sort of thing was unacceptable to our boy Jack.

     He is a definition of a billionaire techbro, who thinks "likes" on social media "exist only to inform an algorithm." He sold Twitter to Musk, saying:
     > Elon is the singular solution I trust. I trust his mission to extend the light of consciousness.

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     Walter van Holst (whvholst@eupolicy.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:04:40 JST Walter van Holst

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     • bumi

     @bumi @rysiek That the speaker is part of an active group of oligarchs pushing for fascism.

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:04:42 JST bumi

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     @rysiek I don’t know the history well enough and never paid attention on the commercial background of the speakers.
     what’s the problem? that there are speakers who run (big) companies? or that there are speakers who’s companies are also sponsors?

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:05:23 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • bumi
     • Nova

     @bumi @SUp3rN0va he's a "free speech" libertarian type "decentralization" supporter:
     https://techwontsave.us/episode/228_jack_dorseys_embrace_of_crypto_libertarianism_w_david_gerard

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:09:57 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     In case anyone is confused as to why platforming Jack Dorsey is a problem, go listen to this Tech Won't Save Us episode:
     https://techwontsave.us/episode/228_jack_dorseys_embrace_of_crypto_libertarianism_w_david_gerard

     #FOSDEM #FOSDEM2025

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:19:32 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     Lol, of course there is immediately a sealion in the replies, asking polite questions about why would letting Dorsey speak at FOSDEM be an issue, and why would anyone not like Dorsey after he supported decentralized networks like Nostr.

     Profile: Bitcoin developer, "working on web monetization", Nostr address.

     [shocked picachu face] 🤣

     So about Nostr:

     > Jack Dorsey gave $10 million to an anonymous founder with a deep devotion to a fascist 'guru'

     https://web.archive.org/web/20240606093146/https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-fiatjaf-nostr-donation-2024-6

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:33:47 JST Rich Felker

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     @rysiek Shouldn't be hard to find something reportable in these shitheads' post histories. Get them off to fedi and back to their circlejerk on Nostr.

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     Julius Schwartzenberg (jschwart@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:36:32 JST Julius Schwartzenberg

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     @rysiek I saw multiple posts complaining about a bilionaire speaking. I was confused by that.

     I think it had better be highlighted that people have a problem with a fascist speaking. Then it's more clear that there is a problem.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:44:23 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • Nova

     @SUp3rN0va also, check these out:

     > Jack Dorsey gave $10 million to an anonymous founder with a deep devotion to a fascist 'guru'
     https://web.archive.org/web/20240606093146/https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-fiatjaf-nostr-donation-2024-6

     And this Tech Won't Save Us podcast episode:
     https://techwontsave.us/episode/228_jack_dorseys_embrace_of_crypto_libertarianism_w_david_gerard

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:51:15 JST Rich Felker

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     @ljrk @rysiek Organizing to exclude awful ppl from your communities isn't circle jerking.

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     lj·rk (ljrk@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 20:51:16 JST lj·rk

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias @rysiek tbf, we’re circle jerking too, but we are right (at least i believe so)

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 21:02:00 JST Rich Felker

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     • lj·rk

     @ljrk @rysiek The distinction I'm making is that we're here because we want to have positive community, share things were cresting, build systems to protect one another, etc. We don't need or want them here.

     But they depend on trying to hurt us to have a good time online. That's why, despite being on their disgusting nazi coinbro thing Nostr, they're also here. The circlejerk analogy is that they're stuck settling for each other's miserable company when they want to be screwing us.

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     lj·rk (ljrk@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 21:02:01 JST lj·rk

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias @rysiek Oh, I didn't mean that ^^'

     The Fedi in general is a bit of a circle-jerk, but I like it (we do have discussions, but it's a bubble nontheless but I really don't mind).

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 21:57:10 JST Rich Felker

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     • bumi

     @bumi If you have values opposed to the very existence of people I care about, I really don't care to know or exchange ideas with you.

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 21:57:12 JST bumi

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     @dalias
     I am the person who asked those questions. And I really wanted to understand. I care about events like FOSDEM and don’t know much about Dorsey and the problem here.

     So why do you call me a shithead?
     And please show me something “reportable” in my timeline where I post something unacceptable.

     When did we loose to have a conversation among people who don’t know each other?
     What do we expect when we insult people who we don’t know as “shithead”?

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:01:19 JST Rich Felker

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     • bumi

     @bumi @ljrk Google paradox of tolerance.

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:01:22 JST bumi

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     @dalias @ljrk
     how is calling a person who you have never interacted with nor know (me) a “shithead” part of a “positive community”?
     How did me asking another person a question “hurt” you?

     In my world and in my fediverse horribly insulting others is not part of a “positive community” which can interact with each other in a decent way.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:01:52 JST Rich Felker

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     @bumi Welcoming fascist funding VCs to our communities.

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:01:53 JST bumi

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     @dalias how do you come to the conclusion I oppse the existence of people?!

     This is crazy. You have never interacted with me but want to know my values?!

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:04:21 JST Rich Felker

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     • bumi

     @bumi @ljrk No, I don't have anything to prove to you. Fuck off.

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:04:22 JST bumi

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     • lj·rk

     @dalias @ljrk
     which in this case would say that I am intolerant and thus you must not tolerate me. but for that you also need to be able to show where am I intolerant?!

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:06:26 JST Rich Felker

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     • bumi

     @bumi Jack.

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:06:28 JST bumi

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias who? which VC do I welcome to the community?
     I asked a question about FOSDEM…

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:07:27 JST Rich Felker

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     • bumi

     @bumi And JAQing off isn't an excuse.

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     pfm ? (pfm@edolas.world)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:11:00 JST pfm ?

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     @rysiek There's going to be a Birds of Feather session on Saturday about organising sponsor-free conferences, which deserves to get some attention as it's obviously very relevant:

     At NixCon 2024, we took the bold step of going completely sponsor-free—and it turned out to be a great success, with 400 attendees, making it the largest NixCon to date.

     In this BOF session, I’ll share my experiences as a core organizer, including the challenges, lessons learned, and tips for anyone looking to organize their own sponsor-free events without breaking the bank.

     https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6721-organizing-sponsor-free-conferences-bof/

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:13:53 JST Rich Felker

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     • bumi

     @bumi I wasn't even talking about you, just Jack apologists in general. You @'d me and inserted yourself into a conversation that didn't involve you, then claimed you were wronged. By doing that, you proved you were an asshole.

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     bumi (bumi@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:13:55 JST bumi

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     @dalias
     where do I welcome him? I don’t even know much about him…
     I asked questions, got some nice and helpful answers and links, learned details, …

     and you come here and insult me for unknown reasons and then are unable to even comment on it.
     and at the same time call it “positive community”…

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 22:14:49 JST Rich Felker

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     • bumi

     @bumi Whatever I assumed about you, it's because you presented yourself as one of the Jack apologists "wronged" by us.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 01:13:48 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     @cait yeah, added the context to the original toot.

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     Caitríona (cait@siorc.eu)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 01:13:54 JST Caitríona

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     @rysiek@mstdn.social There's a sit in protest on the main stage after the preceeding talk apparently

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 01:57:10 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • pfm ?

     @pfm @rysiek I find that a weird comparison. Nixcon asked 130€ per Ticket while FOSDEM, due to its sponsors (that, BTW, have no booth or presence at the event, it's part of the rules for sponsorship) is completely free for everyone to join since many years.

     Tw different approaches that can happily coexist, IMHO.