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   Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 10:14:55 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦

   "#Kremlin says new #US #sanctions will destabilize international #markets"

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   My gosh, my dear man #Peskov, this sounds terrible!

   But...

   One moment, if I may, dear esteemed sir:

   You mean it's not the stupid mass murdering #ethnofascist #imperialist invasion destabilizing things?

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   Think on it, you piece of shit

   No one but cranial-cavity-voided morons buy this simpleton "no, u!" reverse-victim-and-offender #gaslighting #DARVO shit

   https://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-says-us-sanctions-destabilize-120523210.html

   #UkraineWar #Russia #Ukraine

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     Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 10:14:46 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦

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     @eva_chaos @tuban_muzuru @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

     well yeah

     in 2025

     even 2000

     but not 1975

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     Eva Chaos (eva_chaos@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 10:14:46 JST Eva Chaos

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     @benroyce @tuban_muzuru @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Vietnam#:~:text=Vietnam%20is%20a%20socialist%20republic,of%20the%20party%20and%20state.

     Communism sucked, it killed 65 million in China alone. We were trying to contain russia but we came at it late and ignorant and weak. That's precisely why I send money to Ukraine.

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     Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 10:14:47 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦

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     @tuban_muzuru @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

     that's a weird analogy to make, because the true analogy to the vietnam war is that russia is the usa and ukraine is vietnam

     and who won the vietnam war?

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     @benroyce @tuban_muzuru @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

     That is absolutely not true. Vietnam was a direct consequence of russian ambitions that wrecked a country and we failed the information game. We fucked up, but ask any Vietnamese person in New Orleans how they felt about the Soviet cancer and they will tell you.

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     @tuban_muzuru @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

     i don't know what to tell you. economic sanctions do work and they are real. their effects just don't manifest in a way we can appreciate with dramatic flair. stop looking for dramatic stark effects on this topic (unless there's an economic collapse, which is a long way away, but even then, i'm wondering if you would admit sanctions would have played a roll in that, when they would have)

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     @benroyce @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

     The current Ukraine war has become a war of attrition. Whiz bang gadgets don't win wars. I've heard all this before, those cheerful chuckleheads in Saigon on the Friday Night Follies, telling us how many Vee Cee they'd killed. We dropped more ordnance on Laos and Cambodia than all of WW2, German and Allied, including the nuclear weapons.

     This is becoming a Verdun, a lobster trap. Too little, too late.

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     @benroyce @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

     That's SOP for the West. It never works. It didn't break Saddam, it hasn't broken Iran, hasn't broken NoKo.

     Who has it broken.

     Ben, it's nothing but eyewash. Looks like they're doing something.

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     Sex Crazed SaltShaker of Death (dsmdexter@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 10:14:50 JST Sex Crazed SaltShaker of Death

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     @tuban_muzuru @benroyce @mister_shade02X2
     As the walls close in.
     Just imagine if the West had actually been serious about the "sanctions" from the start.

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     @dsmdexter @tuban_muzuru @mister_shade02X2

     the problem with that is if you go all in from the get go on economic sanctions, you have nowhere to go to if russia behaves even worse

     the way to use economic sanctions is to gradually accumulate them if russia stays shitty, gradually roll them back if russia acts better, and clamp them down tighter if russia acts even worse

     it's not like firing a gun or setting off a bomb, there's huge inertia involved and you push and pull, harder or softer

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     @benroyce @tuban_muzuru @mister_shade02X2
     I was wondering if he was thinking it could be self-inflicted.

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     @dsmdexter @benroyce @mister_shade02X2

     You could be right.

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     @tuban_muzuru @mister_shade02X2 @benroyce

     Who will be pulling the trigger?

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     @dsmdexter @tuban_muzuru @mister_shade02X2

     some shadowy ghoul with a big payday

     employed by mechanisms of power in russia that recognize the weakness and sense opportunity

     that's the way a mafia works, and russia is a mafia thugocracy

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     @tuban_muzuru @benroyce I know it’s pessimistic, but I think Putin will only leave office when he dies of old age. There were people saying he would fall years ago. It keeps not happening.

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     That's a bet I'll take. Putin will die of gunshot within two years at most

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     ... and it was totally unnecessary. All Putin had to do, when he came to power, was keep his cronies happy. Put an economic marble on that terrain, it would roll straight to Moscow and St Petersburg. Russia could be amazingly wealthy.

     He would have friends.

     But he's such a shitweasel, incapable of thinking strategically.

     I don't give him six months more. His fall will be great.