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@tuban_muzuru @dsmdexter @mister_shade02X2

i don't know what to tell you. economic sanctions do work and they are real. their effects just don't manifest in a way we can appreciate with dramatic flair. stop looking for dramatic stark effects on this topic (unless there's an economic collapse, which is a long way away, but even then, i'm wondering if you would admit sanctions would have played a roll in that, when they would have)