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    BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:58:31 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ BowserNoodle ☦️
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    Day 9Genesis 27

    Isaac is getting old and is now blind anddying. He calls for Esau, his firstborn son, and asks him to go and catch some wild game and cook him a meal. Isaac's wife, Rebecca, overheard this and immediately goes to work to make sure that Jacob gets the blessing. Jacob protests since he is a smooth-skinned man unlike his hairy brother, but Rebecca knows has a plan. They go and kill two young kid goats and cook them as a meal for Isaac, and Jacob wears the goat skins on his arms so that Isaac will feel the fur. Jacob also wears Esau's musky hunting clothes. When he serves him the meal and wine, Isaac is very satisfied but is confused— he's pretty sure it's actually Jacob rather than Esau because of his voice. There's a moment where he feels his furry arms and smells the scent of Esau's clothes. Maybe it was a combination of the convincing disguise and wine or uncertainty in his own mental faculties from failing health, but he gives Jacob the blessing originally intended for his firstborn. Esau comes back and is fuming mad and wants to kill his brother. Isaac gives him a lesser blessing saying that he'll live by the sword and he blessed by the fatness of the earth and will eventually brake the yoke his brother puts upon him. Rebekah sends Jacob away because she doesn't want him philandering with Canaanites like Esau, nor does she want Esau to murder him.

    When I first read this chapter, I remember thinking that Jacob acted like kind of a dick. I was more mad at Rebekah for coordinating everything. Rereading it now, I think it was obviously the right choice. Esau didn't care about the commandments of his father and mother nor God. They were specifically not supposed to marry and have kids with Canaanite women, yet here he was. He cared so little for the blessing of his father that he was willing to trade it for beans (red lentil stew). Think about that. This dude grows up in what is basically a super rich household with tons of servants and likely thousands of head of cattle, and he's like "yeah I'm just gonna go screw around innawoods and get some 3️⃣ Canaanite women 3️⃣ ". Not good! He would have defiled the blessing had he received it, and God had already declared to Rebekah what was to happen with the older serving the younger.

    RT: https://poa.st/objects/9880ff24-e655-4f6f-9f29-906a30d93d2c

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      King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:07:40 JST King_Noticer King_Noticer
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      @BowsacNoodle Mmm beans :jahy_derp:
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      BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:07:40 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ BowserNoodle ☦️
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      @King_Noticer Ayo dis nigga eating beans!
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:09:03 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle i always wondered first isaac was he unaware how unworthy his first born was? or was he aware but wanted to bless him anyways becuase he's the first born that's just how it goes, also why is it ok that jacob decieved his father? deception isn'ta Christian value.
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:09:03 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle jsut some things i've thought about over hte years but never asked anyone.
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      BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:18:38 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ BowserNoodle ☦️
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      @givenup He was aware to at least some extent. Perhaps he hoped the blessing would trigger a correction in his son's conduct since prophecy will come to pass. Deception isn't good, but this is kind of specific circumstances and also decreed by God as what is to happen AND agreed to by Esau in the prior stew exchange.
      The last verse as well as prior and later verses sort of address the problem, and we get more info later on when we see Esau's actions.
      >Genesis 26:34 — 34When Esau was forty years old, he took as wives Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Basemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite. 35And they were a grief of mind to Isaac and Rebekah.
      >Genesis 27:46 — And Rebekah said to Isaac, “I am weary of my life because of the daughters of Heth; if Jacob takes a wife of the daughters of Heth, like these who are the daughters of the land, what good will my life be to me?”
      Basically she's going to die of stress because her son is married to 3️⃣ Canaanite women 3️⃣ who are trying to get him to worship whatever mystery false gods they follow and other general wickedness.
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:22:10 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle either way i understand that a lot of the old testament shows us very fallible men that God uses for great htings.
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:22:11 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle yea, but God's will is going to come to pass without man's intervention, david didn't run off to kill saul the moment he was annointed to be king, he waited until God removed saul.
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:22:11 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle the bible itself attests to the misfortune that trying to force God's hand brings.
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      BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:24:09 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ BowserNoodle ☦️
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      @givenup This isn't trying to force God's hand IMO, because Esau had already violated the covenant by mixing with 3️⃣ Canaanite ladies AND God had already declared that Jacob was the successor of the blessing. This was forcing Isaac's hand. Maybe a technicality, but I think it is different.
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:29:01 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle i spose you got a point, i just don't think using deception and trickery is the way to go about enacting God's will, it never sat right with me, is all i'm saying.
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      BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:29:01 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ BowserNoodle ☦️
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      @givenup I totally agree! I put my feelings, which have evolved over time, regarding Jacob and Rebekah in the OP. The moral of the story is not to take your blessings for granted and listen to God and your parents.
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      nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:30:38 JST nugger nugger
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      @givenup @BowsacNoodle ESAU HEARD JACOB WAS COMING HOME THROUGH CANAANITE MLK JR BOULEVARD AND RALLIED A FUCKIN ARMY TO GO MEET HIM BEFORE HE GOT HIS HEAD CHOPPED OFF BY THE LOCALS


      CLEARLY ESAU DID A LOT OF GROWING UP ON HIS OWN WHILE JACOB WAS WORKING IN MESOPOTAMIA
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      nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:30:39 JST nugger nugger
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      @BowsacNoodle @givenup ESAU WASN'T THAT BRIGHT BUT HE WAS A FIGHTER AND HE WAS OUT WITH HIS DAD AND THE REST OF FIGHTERS, HASHING OUT TERRITORY DISPUTES AND SO ON
      HE WAS THE OBVIOUS PICK
      JACOB WAS A MOMMAS BOY SITTING IN THE TENT WITH THE WOMEN, CROCHETING AND LEARNING HOW TO TRICK PEOPLE

      AND HONESTLY THE STEW THING IS NOT SOME SORT OF IRONCLAD "OOO THIS IS WHERE ESAU HAD LOST HIS BIRTHRIGHT" THING
      IT'S KIDS FUCKIN AROUND
      BUT IT'S INDICATIVE
      FOR JACOB, THE BIRTHRIGHT IS THIS STATUS THING THAT'S SUPER VALUABLE, FOR ESAU IT'S JUST "TAKING OVER FOR DAD"
      HEY KID, WANNA DO ALL THE THINGS YOU ALREADY DO BUT WITH MORE RESPONSIBILITY
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      nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:30:39 JST nugger nugger
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      @BowsacNoodle @givenup I ALSO LIKE HOW ESAU OVERHEARD JACOB BEING SENT OFF TO MESOPOTAMIA AND WAS LIKE "AH!.FUCK, OF COURSE! THE REASON WHY DAD IS MAD IS CAUSE I MARRIED CANAANITES. WELP, NO HARM NO FOUL -- FOURTH TIME IS THE CHARM"
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:30:39 JST givenup givenup
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      @nugger @BowsacNoodle i always liked later when jacob thinks his brother is coming to kill him, and he may well have been, but the ultimately hug and he's like "man ive missed you"
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      BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:33:05 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ BowserNoodle ☦️
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      @nugger @givenup To be more candid, my belief when I first read this after becoming jew aware was that this was some really jewish behavior. And I agree with you— the stew thing was likely a total nonsense thing with kids talking crap, but he swore an oath on it so it was "fair game" (again, lawyer-tier jewish behavior).
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:33:37 JST givenup givenup
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      @nugger @BowsacNoodle welly ou'll prolly never werestle with Jesus like jacob did.
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:34:41 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle God put those in autority over you for a reason, wethaer parents or governors.
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      BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:35:14 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ BowserNoodle ☦️
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      @givenup Sometimes that reason is because we're garbage and need to fix ourselves and we'll thrive under pressure.
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      givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:35:27 JST givenup givenup
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      @BowsacNoodle @nugger on top of allt hat God's intentions are made clear in the text as we read it, i'm just wondering why isaac wouldn't be aware of God's intentions and seems to be going against it, course i also believe that God's intentions will come about regardless of what isaac says or does.
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      nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:48:51 JST nugger nugger
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      @BowsacNoodle @givenup YEAH, JACOB ACTS LIKE A RAT BASTARD AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT IS GETTING FUCKED OVER BY HIS SIMILARLY RAT BASTARD UNCLE UNTIL HE STARTS TO THINK "HMMMMMMM MAYBE BEING A RAT BASTARD ISN'T ACTUALLY A GOOD THING"

      THE STEW I PUT ZERO STOCK IN BECAUSE OF HOW SHAKEN ISAAC IS AFTER THE BLESSING
      HE DOESN'T GO "OH, GOT ME GOOD, OK I REVERSE MY DECISION, ESAU WILL BE FIRSTBORN". LIKE, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE BLESSING ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING, IN REALITY, NOT AS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT OR WHATEVER. IT CAN'T BE UNDONE. STEW OR NO STEW, IT'S THE LAYING ON OF HANDS THAT DID IT.
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      nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:51:25 JST nugger nugger
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      @Will2Power @givenup @BowsacNoodle WELL LIKE NOT LITERALLY PHYSICALLY IN THIS LIFE
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      Will2Power (will2power@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:51:26 JST Will2Power Will2Power
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      @givenup @nugger @BowsacNoodle Why not?
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