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   greeeeen :blobcatpresentgreen: (christmas edition) (green@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:37:27 JST greeeeen :blobcatpresentgreen: (christmas edition)

   you've got 64,, maybe 128, gigabytes of ram on your machine :neobot_shocked:

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:37:26 JST SuperDicq

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     @green@mk.absturztau.be More like 8 GB actually

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:57:24 JST SuperDicq

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     @green@mk.absturztau.be That's also why I also get mad when some people think it's simply "ok" when a web page uses 500 mb of ram.

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     greeeeen :blobcatpresentgreen: (christmas edition) (green@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:57:26 JST greeeeen :blobcatpresentgreen: (christmas edition)

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     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo exactly...

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:59:29 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @green I have 128GB and I don't waste a byte of it running JavaScript.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:00:19 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @green@mk.absturztau.be Doesn't Pleroma contain (free) JavaScript?

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:00:55 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @green I don't run Pleroma's JavaScript.
     
     I use BloatFE.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:02:20 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @green@mk.absturztau.be I personally don't think running free JavaScript is problematic, so I enable JS on sites that I trust. It's still a horrible language to develop with however.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:10:36 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @green Even free JavaScript is a security risk, as someone could compromise the server and make it send proprietary JavaScript and you'll never know, as a misconfigurated browser silently runs whatever a website throws at it.
     
     Free JavaScript would be acceptable if you could download the the source code and/or binary version as a versioned tarball (i.e. via a package manager) and check the signature and run that version with the website, as that would give the user the freedom to choose whether to keep using that version or install an updated version.
     
     The closest we have to that is Tapermonkey or Haketilo, but those extensions can't make any guarantee that proprietary JavaScript won't be executed (the only way to do that is to set javascript.enabled=false, but that would break the proxy version of Haketilo and the browser extension is "depreciated").
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:15:13 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @green@mk.absturztau.be I'm willing to accept minor security risks for convenience and practicality.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:17:10 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @green JavaScript is really a massive inconvenience and an impracticality.
     
     Every single website that I actually want to visit, I disable JavaScript and it works *better* - the same is true for 90% of sites I try.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:22:02 JST 翠星石

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     @Zergling_man @SuperDicq @green Doesn't most electron software load most of the JavaScript from online, thus you can't choose a version of the software, only the version of the web browser (that may be denied access if it's "too old")?
     
     I get the feeling that each "electron application" contains nothing but a copy of chromium and all of the software is remotely loaded - exactly like accessing the website in chrome, except memory consumption is much bigger with multiple separate chrome processes, than chrome tabs.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:22:03 JST Zergling_man

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     @Suiseiseki @green @SuperDicq The closest we have to that is *electron*.
     Please enjoy this cursed awareness.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:26:28 JST 翠星石

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     @Zergling_man @SuperDicq @green I do not use any electron crapware at all.
     
     If you are going to run proprietary malware (you shouldn't), why would you grant it direct access to your computer, rather than running it in a browser that at least claims to sandbox?
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 00:26:29 JST Zergling_man

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     @Suiseiseki @green @SuperDicq >most
     Probably. I use exactly one electron thing, thedesk, and it does not do this.
     Another very reasonable concern I've seen is that electron software tends to open links in its own little popup window instead of deferring to system. thedesk will do this if you middle-click a link, but not otherwise.
     At some point I intend to figure out where that's defined and remove the middle-click function. Maybe I'll remap it to be a search shortcut for opening quote posts and such.