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Heh.
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@MK2boogaloo @teto mfw (my face when) when the countless russian expats fled a perfectly fine country for 20k euro tax deutsch land
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@MK2boogaloo keep in mind that after taxes you're left with 30k a year. Not 50.
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@teto wow I hate Germany now.
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@teto far better than the US then.
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@teto how's the housing price in Germany?
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@MK2boogaloo in Saxony prob 300k, in BW where I am closer to 500k. But if you make more than 50k you can afford the mortgage (if interests are low)
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@MK2boogaloo @teto they're afraid of getting yelled at by a guy with shoulder patches in a camo outfit and doing physical exercises and shooting a gun and taking it apart and cleaning
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@lina @teto they're searching for freedumb and faggocracy.
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@purusa @MK2boogaloo young white men pay for everyone else. That's the system.
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@teto @MK2boogaloo @purusa Fairly sure no one would object publicly funded healthcare if they knew their tax dollars won't go to 300 lbs sheboons and methheads.
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@purusa @MK2boogaloo nomatter how you want to twist this, it won't make sense when the USA exists. It's simply gov bootlicking.
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@MK2boogaloo most west euro states are like that. Gotta pay for the retirement of all the boomers, Mohammeds needs to eat, Ukraine needs weapons, and the leftoid uni students need to go to uni for free or something.
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@teto @MK2boogaloo lmao yeah functioning public services, that's what's wrong with germany
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@purusa @teto @MK2boogaloo There's a line between unfortunate circumstances and poor life choices, and I think it's only fair people who made said choices should suffer the consequences themselves.
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@mint @teto @MK2boogaloo
idk i can't really relate to that level of small mindedness, like you'd rather fuck yourself and everyone else over because you're a slave to your own resentment... you'd poison your own water supply because people you don't like are drinking it too
we nuked the wrong country
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@purusa @teto @MK2boogaloo I'm not G*rman nor American. I have no issue with pubic healthcare, just saying it should be focused first and foremost on productive emembers of society and not parasites.
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@mint @teto @MK2boogaloo
ah, yeah that whole individual responsibility trip, there certainly is something wrong with german education if so many of you fall for this thought terminating cliches
so instead of public healthcare, which i'm sure has problems like everything the state does, but instead of that you want a private system that will make it more expensive for everyone... meaning in order for anyone to afford health care you'll have to pay for insurance, which is a profit seeking middleman who stands between you and your doctor, who will deny you healthcare at every opportunity because that is profitable to do so... and you think that will somehow make things more fair?
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@purusa @teto @MK2boogaloo Parasites here would be people who drag the whole system down, those who leech it off while contributing next to nothing due to their life decisions. Obese and drug addicts, for example. A great chunk of doctor visits could be prevented just by having some self-control, discipline and common sense. Healthcare comes to play when all that did no change despite the effort.
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@mint @teto @MK2boogaloo
okay, well, who decides who the "parasite" is? you presumably, let me tell you, if you're spending your time talking to me, you're not going to be the one to decide lol
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@purusa @teto @MK2boogaloo Maybe not for myself but for their immediate surroundings. And they'd be less of a problem if they weren't getting enabled. Again, just an example.
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@mint @teto @MK2boogaloo
you think maybe there are bigger problems in the world than fat people and drug addicts? are they really the source of your problems?
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@mint @purusa @MK2boogaloo @teto Quintillions must die
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This is such a privileged point of view. I would wager you're middle class, college educated, liberal, and probably have never had any real interactions with homeless people.
I work in a lot of public housing complexes and the thing is, a large percentage of poor and disadvantaged people are literal parasites who don't have the capacity for personal responsibility.
What privileged people (privileged in the sense you've gone from a relatively stable home -> college -> some corporate job and have never directly worked/been around "poor people") don't understand is how much of a literally incompetent parasite most homeless/poor people are. Personal responsibility aside, it is literally a culture and these people aren't domesticated. Like if you gave them a home and healthcare, they wouldn't be able to clean up after themselves, or make any kind of appointment on time.
The thing about it is you literally give them too much credit and don't understand a majority of people who get government assistant literally don't have the brain capacity to cook on a stove without starting a fire.
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@purusa @teto @MK2boogaloo US has plenty of problems, I'm not even sure those could be fixed without spilling blood; the dilemma here is whether its people would have to slice off its limbs or let them keep rotting.
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@mint @teto @MK2boogaloo
well, these are problems i'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned about drug addition or obesity, but it's not so simple as "these are horrible bad people" ... anyway the US absolutely has far higher rates of obesity and drug addiction without public healthcare, we're #1 baby, so privatizing healthcare ain't gonna fix that
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@purusa @teto @MK2boogaloo I don't remember ever arguing against public healthcare as a whole. I just think it shouldn't be abused, just like how repeated felons get no parole.
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@mint @teto @MK2boogaloo
okay, you've persuaded me, fuck Germany, privatize your healthcare and die of a preventative condition, also ban vaccines so your kids die of polio, the world will be better off
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@mint @teto @MK2boogaloo
okay fair enough, i would just say people are always gonna abuse the system, be assholes, it's just how people are, when you go out of your way to punish people there will be unintended consequences that end up hurting innocent people.
you should also be aware that the amerikkkan insurance cartels are drooling to move into europe, liquidate public healtcare and make huge profits, they're already doing that in the UK, and they use a lot of this rhetoric about freeloaders or efficiency or "freedom" don't let yourself be used
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